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[16:12] * Topic is 'Jython 2.7 final released: http://tinyurl.com/muqfuul | This channel is logged: http://jython.extreme.st/irclogs/ | Please update the wiki: http://wiki.python.org/jython | Jython Book: http://jythonbook.com | Podcast: http://jython.org/jythonpodcast/'
[16:12] * Set by agronholm!~agronholm@nblzone-211-20.nblnetworks.fi on Sun May 03 05:10:52 UTC 2015
[16:13] <ohumbel> Hi all, the log bot was down for a few hours, but you missed nothing
[16:23] <jimbaker> ohumbel, hi
[16:24] <jimbaker> so we are done with jython 2.7.1, except pip on windows is broken. just need to figure that out, and we can release
[16:25] <jimbaker> also sounds like requests is getting fixed
[16:25] <jimbaker> see http://stackoverflow.com/questions/40698143/is-jython-a-liability-in-my-codebase
[16:25] <jimbaker> the requests maintainers are aware, and their dependencies on these vendored libraries are getting some work. hopefully soon!
[16:37] <TomA_> @jimbaker we are seeing our local development paths in jython stacktraces. We build the jython standalone jar via the ant jar-standalone task. Is there any way to avoid that?
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[16:39] <jimbaker> TomA_, hmmm, i haven't worked on that code. should be a straightforward patch i would think
[16:41] <jimbaker> biab
[16:41] <TomA_> fwiw this ends up in the compiled class file: Lorg/python/compiler/Filename;
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[18:03] <jimbaker> TomA_, yeah, don't know about that specific artifact re Lorg/python/compiler/Filename, other than it's an important annotation to get pyc style semantics implemented
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[18:57] <TomA_> ah ok. Want me to file a ticket?
[20:30] <jimbaker> TomA_, sure, sounds like a good feature request to me
[20:30] <jimbaker> we could also use this opportunity to implement the traceback editing that was done for 3.6 in the event of stack overflows
[20:32] <jimbaker> TomA_, in particular we can take advantage of https://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/lang/StackTraceElement.html
[20:32] <jimbaker> it's been around since java 1.4. maybe we should use? ;)
[20:32] <chrisseaton> jimbaker: there's a new stack introspection API coming isn't there (nothing to do with Graal)?
[20:33] <jimbaker> chrisseaton, in java 9 right? we need to revisit
[20:33] <jimbaker> get the basics done of java 9 support for java 2.7.2; and actually use in jython 3
[20:33] <jimbaker> probably should require java 9 for jython 3.x
[20:34] <jimbaker> get all new goodness available :)
[20:36] <jimbaker> TomA_, so this is the core code for printing stack traces - https://github.com/jythontools/jython/blob/master/src/org/python/core/Py.java#L1078
[20:36] <jimbaker> it does exactly what one would expect without the StackTraceElement support. so we should definitely revisit
[20:39] <chrisseaton> jimbaker: I've had quite a bit of work for Java 9 - are you using Joda?
[21:03] <jimbaker> chrisseaton, we are not using joda. we use a pure python datetime
[21:03] <jimbaker> so many obvious optimizations! :)
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