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[14:53] <chrisseaton> agronholm ari: JRuby runs on Android via something called Ruboto, maybe that could be adapted to run Python as well
[15:02] <jimbaker> something like that is definitely doable for jython
[15:02] <jimbaker> just requires interest!
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[16:34] <jimbaker> nickmbailey, slowly putting together the RC for 2.7.1. any other bugs i should be aware of?
[16:35] <jimbaker> i will spend some more time vetting the work on SNI
[16:41] <nickmbailey> hmm afaik all the ones we've filed have been taken care of
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[16:43] <jimbaker> nickmbailey, awesome
[16:43] <jimbaker> not certain what is up with windows 10, but i guess it means i need to install it as well as windows 8
[16:44] * jimbaker is a reluctant windows dev
[16:44] <nickmbailey> oof. i do not envy you
[16:47] <jimbaker> i console myself that fixing various compatibility issues that arise when looking at posix vs windows is somehow teaching me something interesting about computing, and the universe in general
[16:47] <jimbaker> but this is a lie i tell myself
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[18:09] <nickmbailey> no that totatlly sounds plausible...
[18:09] <nickmbailey> definitely
[18:09] * nickmbailey tries to sound reassuring
[18:12] <jimbaker> :)
[18:16] <chrisseaton> Have you looked the new Linux layer in Windows? I'm hoping that solves all my JRuby+Truffle on Windows problems.
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[18:23] <agronholm> it's an entirely separate userspace that IIRC does not integrate well with actual Windows software
[18:28] <jimbaker> chrisseaton, i have heard about it, and i certainly should look into. one of my former colleagues at canonical wrote a nice blog post on it: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2016/03/30/ubuntu-on-windows-the-ubuntu-userspace-for-windows-developers/
[18:29] <jimbaker> i wonder if it will make the windows file system support ref counting. probably not :)
[18:29] <jimbaker> (ref counting of files)
[18:31] <jimbaker> there are all these tiny little bits of semantic difference which neither JNR nor latest java APIs make go away
[18:31] <jimbaker> but fwiw, we were able to make most go away once we pulled out JNR as much as possible
[18:32] <jimbaker> JNR does not play nice with unicode filenames, UNC, etc
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[21:39] <jimbaker> https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/wsl/2016/06/15/wsl-file-system-support/ - support for unlink on windows
[21:39] <jimbaker> "To support Linux unlink semantics, VolFs renames unlinked files to a hidden temporary directory before requesting deletion."
[21:40] <jimbaker> note to do this, it needs to manage the refcount, so it's not something jython could emulate. but something that proxies linux syscalls can
[21:41] <jimbaker> it's definitely worth trying ubuntu on windows with our regrtest test suite, and see how jython works. i will do so later this week
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[21:50] <gsnedders> There's something amusing about running "write once run everywhere" Java inside a compat layer for another system.
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