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[21:56] <agronholm> wow this isaiah peng is productive
[21:56] <agronholm> the jython 3 patches just keep coming
[21:57] <agronholm> it's too bad I'm neck deep in work so I can't even review stuff
[21:57] <pdurbin> pull requests?
[21:58] <agronholm> yeah
[21:58] <pdurbin> sounds like a good problem to have :)
[21:58] <agronholm> the PRs are not a problem
[21:58] <agronholm> the fact that I'm time constrained is
[21:59] <agronholm> right now I'm fighting a Java RMI problem in a production env
[21:59] <pdurbin> yeah, we have the same problem (not the RMI one) :)
[22:00] <pdurbin> agronholm: is Jython your day job?
[22:00] <agronholm> no
[22:00] <agronholm> well
[22:00] <agronholm> developing jython itself isn't
[22:00] <agronholm> nor is it the day job of anyone else here atm
[22:01] <agronholm> one of my work projects does involve jython for now
[22:01] <pdurbin> ok, that's what I figured
[22:01] <agronholm> java application servers are truly the complicator's wet dream
[22:02] <pdurbin> how so?
[22:02] <agronholm> take this RMI for example
[22:03] <agronholm> this app only uses RMI but it somehow ends up needing services from 4 different TCP ports
[22:03] <agronholm> then there's TONS of xml configuration
[22:04] <pdurbin> I learned a little RMI for a class years ago but I've never been tempted to use it for real.
[22:06] <pdurbin> or I've never found myself in an environment where RMI is used in production
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[23:44] <pdurbin> agronholm: anyway, good luck
[23:44] <agronholm> pdurbin: thanks
[23:44] <agronholm> it's a bizarre problem
[23:45] <pdurbin> having trouble reproducing the bug outside of prod?
[23:45] <agronholm> yeah
[23:46] <pdurbin> it is ever thus
[23:46] <agronholm> if I launch it with web start from my windows box, it will connect to port 1099 and 1098 just fine
[23:46] <agronholm> but then when it's supposed to connect to port 3873 (RMI), it fails
[23:46] <agronholm> at first I thought it was just trying to connect to localhost for some weird reason, but it's not
[23:47] <agronholm> and I only have a VPN connection which cannot be snooped with wireshark
[23:47] <agronholm> then I set up an ssh tunnel from my windows box to the remote server and forwarded all the relevant ports
[23:47] <agronholm> and guess what, it still worked fine from the linux box...
[23:48] <agronholm> so it wasn't a problem with it trying to connect to localhost
[23:48] <agronholm> now I'm totally clueless as to what causes this
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