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IRC Log for 2015-06-20

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[14:34] <ztane> hi
[14:35] <pdurbin> ztane: hi
[14:38] <dbbb> hello from berkeley
[14:46] <dbbb> has anyone taken the Jython source tree... from git, and opened it as a project in Eclipse ?
[14:46] <dbbb> .. for example to step in a debugger through code..
[14:47] <dbbb> the PyDev tools seem to easily read jython / python .. while the other python debug envirnments each had problems..
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[15:09] <ztane> dbbb: me, but the Jython 3
[15:09] <dbbb> ah
[15:09] <ztane> I cannot build it though :D even the ant build fails on command line at some stages :P
[15:09] <dbbb> !!
[15:10] <ztane> I can build it on command line but not cleanly
[15:10] <ztane> (but then again that is the Jython 3 fork which has already diverged somewhat)
[15:10] <dbbb> being completely not a java person, I have two observations about Eclipse..
[15:10] <ztane> but editing works nicely, and there are no errors
[15:10] <ztane> eclipse is quite ok for Java...
[15:10] <dbbb> one is -- Eclipse is much better than I remember from 8 years ago..
[15:11] <ztane> for others the problem is that there's no money :D
[15:11] <ztane> pydev used to sell licenses, but now...
[15:11] <dbbb> two - every small program that works on the command line, has some issue in Eclipse !
[15:11] * dbbb reads your comments
[15:12] <dbbb> hah - no money is a common problem in open source.. not unique here
[15:12] <ztane> the problem with "every 'small' program that works on command line" is that... well they're also built on command line
[15:12] <ztane> the no-money is not a problem with java
[15:12] <ztane> but python
[15:13] <dbbb> hm
[15:13] <ztane> the JDT of eclipse without money is better than any of the with-money tools for python
[15:13] <ztane> including PyCharm
[15:13] <dbbb> haha - maybe
[15:14] <ztane> been using both daily
[15:14] <dbbb> but PyCharm was not understanding the Jython system, and eclipse did immediately.. I only want a debugger that works
[15:14] <dbbb> ok - you are using both much more than me
[15:14] <dbbb> I do python a few hours a week
[15:15] <ztane> pycharm is a recent addition, but I've been eclipse user for 10 years
[15:15] <ztane> not for python though :P
[15:15] <dbbb> II have eclipse Luna at home.. Kepler on the machine I am on now, but I will lose this one soon
[15:16] <ztane> I am coding a java product on kepler so I've stuck with it
[15:16] <ztane> should upgrade soon
[15:16] <ztane> *a PDE product that is
[15:16] <dbbb> oh wait - maybe I got that backwards ;-)
[15:16] <dbbb> do you use JDBC at all zane ?
[15:16] <dbbb> ztane: ?
[15:16] <ztane> nope
[15:16] <dbbb> ok
[15:17] <ztane> never really touched it, except under heavy layers
[15:17] <ztane> hibernate + jpa + jinq and such, never with python though
[15:19] <dbbb> ok - I know postgresql well, I wanted to talk to it.. I almost have it working...
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