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[4:13] <dorkmafia> how would I chagnes this to use _Function instead of CFUNCTION? http://paste.debian.net/120873/
[4:13] <dorkmafia> or is that not possible?
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[18:00] <Ne0nd0g> Hello, i was wondering if someone can help me. I'm trying to connect to MySQL with Jython. It looks like I need to use the zxJDBC package?
[18:01] <agronholm> Ne0nd0g: there was something more recent
[18:02] <Ne0nd0g> a better package than zxJDBC?
[18:02] <Ne0nd0g> Can't I just use MySQL's JDBC?
[18:02] <agronholm> you can, but if you want to use it with python APIs...
[18:03] <Ne0nd0g> Ok, so which driver do I need in my classpath? zxJDBC?
[18:03] <agronholm> the MySQL JDBC driver
[18:04] <agronholm> zxJDBC is included in jython
[18:04] <Ne0nd0g> if I have a sub folder called 'libs' where the MySQL JDBC driver is, can I just write some code to update my classpath to include the "libs" directory?
[18:05] <agronholm> JDBC drivers and the class path are a constant source of trouble
[18:05] <agronholm> you should set your CLASSPATH to include that directory
[18:05] <agronholm> either that, or put the jar in the boot classpath
[18:06] <Ne0nd0g> are you saying to set my classpath from the command line when running the program?
[18:06] <agronholm> yeh
[18:07] <Ne0nd0g> Ok, thanks for the help agronholm
[18:26] <Ne0nd0g> So, there is a better library to use instead of zxJDBC
[18:26] <Ne0nd0g> ?
[18:27] <agronholm> someone else should answer that question
[18:34] <paolo> Ne0nd0g: this one https://code.google.com/p/jyjdbc/
[18:43] <paolo> not that you *have to* use jyjdbc and not zxjdbc; it just claims to be more compliant to Python db api 2.0, with tests proving that
[18:44] <Ne0nd0g> Thanks for the suggestion paolo
[18:44] <Ne0nd0g> i'll look into it
[18:48] <paolo> np, glad to help. i also got help from #jython people (many times ;)
[18:56] <Ne0nd0g> paolo, I was reading through the github page and MySQL isn't listed as a supported backend. Do you happen to have first hand experience?
[18:57] <paolo> nope, i only tried sqlite3 (and worked)
[18:58] <xemdetia> Ne0nd0g, where do you say not supported. All I saw was 'not tested.'
[18:58] <xemdetia> Those are wildly different things!
[18:58] <Ne0nd0g> you are correct xemdetia , my mistake
[18:58] <xemdetia> no problem. :)
[18:59] <Ne0nd0g> my mind did a "well, it's not in the supported list, therefore it's unsupported". But as you noted that isn't true
[18:59] <xemdetia> Well that's the wonders of JDBC
[19:00] <Ne0nd0g> it looks like the last commit for jyjdbc was in 2011? if zxJDBC is part of python, why not use it?
[19:01] <Ne0nd0g> and by commit, I mean the zip available for download
[19:01] <xemdetia> Ne0nd0g, at that point I would just try both and see which one is easier to get up and running
[19:01] <xemdetia> you aren't trying to write a mysql driver, you just want it to work
[19:02] <Ne0nd0g> true
[19:02] <paolo> Ne0nd0g: why don't you try the repository tip instead? (Jan 16, 2013)
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[20:11] <Ne0nd0g_> What IDE do you guys use for Jython?
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[20:17] <xemdetia> Ne0nd0g_, emacs
[20:46] <jimbaker> fwiw, so it's not possible for us to simply drop zxJDBC for 2.7, but since it's not really tested, we cannot really maintain it either
[20:47] <jimbaker> a bit of a dilemma
[20:47] <xemdetia> a new jython install
[20:47] <xemdetia> jython --extra-cobwebs
[20:47] <jimbaker> :)
[20:47] <jimbaker> jython 3.x is the chance to dust
[20:48] <jimbaker> fwierzbicki has been in conversation w/ jyjdbc's author to see if we can include as a built-in zxJDBC replacement
[20:56] <fwierzbicki> Oh yeah I forgot to mention that Actian (his company) agreed to let him sign the PSF contributor agreement for purposes of contributing jyjdbc - so now it's just a matter of doing.
[20:56] <fwierzbicki> jimbaker: ^^^
[20:57] <jimbaker> fwierzbicki, fantastic! sounds like we can drop zxJDBC then, and have jyjdbc pretend to be it :)
[20:57] <fwierzbicki> Just a small matter of coding now :)
[20:58] <jimbaker> fwierzbicki, btw, i have seen some bug reports re the django dev server not working w/ beta 3... i haven't had a chance to drill into it, certainly not today... got a couple of pycon proposals to complete
[20:58] <jimbaker> but i suspect we might need a beta 4 AND a beta 5
[20:59] <fwierzbicki> sure - btw I submitted a proposal too - really just the same one I proposed 2 years ago but got influenza and couldn't be there
[20:59] <fwierzbicki> We'll see if it still flies :)
[20:59] <jimbaker> cool. i plan to say something about how we got to jython 2.7
[20:59] <jimbaker> also another proposal on weakrefs
[20:59] <fwierzbicki> cool - mine as a howto do Jython/Django to get Python into a Java shop
[20:59] <fwierzbicki> with Maven and Spring
[20:59] <jimbaker> fwierzbicki, sounds like a good one, and very timely
[21:00] <fwierzbicki> Which is really just a description of the Jython part of my current job
[21:01] <fwierzbicki> Though I'd like to put out a very simple repo that can be used as a template for that sort of thing as well - maybe put it up in jythontools
[21:01] <jimbaker> fwierzbicki, incidentally, how much would you gain if you had java annotation support in jython via clamp? this is a bit of a drag for our keystone work - we have to write a lot of java wrappers right now
[21:01] <fwierzbicki> The app I have doesn't need it - we use python style decorators and wrap the Java that way
[21:02] <jimbaker> something darjus and i have been planning to work on. but since we emit precise classes, might as well as add java annotation metadata as well
[21:02] <fwierzbicki> though I can see how it would be convenient in general
[21:02] <fwierzbicki> cool
[21:02] <fwierzbicki> If we did something like hibernate I could see it being very useful
[21:03] <jimbaker> in our case, it's spring dependency injection
[21:03] <jimbaker> so we need something to do the DI against
[21:03] <fwierzbicki> ah - hmmm. It is possible that we could use that, but I'd have to think about it.
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[21:11] <jimbaker> fwierzbicki, once i get back to having some time to work on clamp, i will ping you about specifics
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[21:22] <fwierzbicki> jimbaker: very cool
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