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[8:33] -tomaw- [Global Notice] Hi all. I need to reroute some servers after that split otherwise we'll see significant lag across the network.
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[12:06] <xemdetia> I wish the archived parts of jython's documentations were better labelled as old. I am still trying to figure out how I ended up there though.
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[17:00] <jimbaker> xemdetia, we have a number of doc bugs. sorry about that! at least the standard python docs + the jython book is pretty good
[17:00] <jimbaker> xemdetia, since you just rejoined, reposting - we have a number of doc bugs. sorry about that! at least the standard python docs + the jython book is pretty good
[17:00] <jimbaker> our priority is getting 2.7.0 out
[17:01] <xemdetia> jimbaker, thanks for the info I just didn't know if it was a know thing. It apparently is!
[17:01] <xemdetia> I will definitely explore the jython book as the primary resource now though.
[17:02] <jimbaker> xemdetia, yeah. we had a large sustained effort for 2.5, but we are rebuilding that to get 2.7 out the door
[17:02] <jimbaker> xemdetia, i think it's a pretty good book, although i'm obviously biased as a co-author ;)
[17:03] <xemdetia> Well I hope it works out for me!
[17:04] <xemdetia> I just know I have rational coming down the pike and I want to be ready for it
[17:05] <jimbaker> xemdetia, does rational use jython?
[17:06] <xemdetia> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jython#Usage
[17:06] <xemdetia> According to there it is, but I am not familiar enough with the product to say one way or another.
[17:06] <jimbaker> xemdetia, ahh, interesting. we don't really have much interaction with ibm, whg excluded
[17:07] <xemdetia> Do you know what product whg works with
[17:08] <xemdetia> I wonder if we are in the same building
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[17:37] <whg> xemdetia: I work from home, so I don't think we are :-)
[17:37] <xemdetia> Aww. I am a new person so I am just trying to find people outside my departmet.
[17:38] <xemdetia> err, department.
[17:41] <whg> xemdetia: What's your gig, if I may ask
[17:43] <xemdetia> whg, just support for guardium
[17:43] <xemdetia> May I ask yours in return?
[17:43] <whg> I work on a SaaS product in SWG
[17:43] <whg> Marketing Operations On Demand
[17:44] <xemdetia> That sounds pretty neat, or rather it definitely sounds like new tech.
[17:44] <whg> The app is actually from the 90s :-)
[17:45] <xemdetia> Really? I must not have come across it. :(
[17:45] <whg> Before multiple acquisitions, it was called MarketingCentral
[17:45] <whg> We came into IBM when IBM bought Unica a while back
[17:45] <xemdetia> ah
[17:46] <xemdetia> I feel lucky because guardium was a very recent acquisition so everyone's still mostly in one spot and so it still has the smaller business feel right now.
[17:46] <whg> Enjoy it while it lasts :-)
[17:47] <xemdetia> I will try!
[17:47] <whg> We don't use WebSphere, but we will be using Jython (and clamp) soon enough
[17:48] <xemdetia> Right now we are still getting converted to IBM tech so rational is coming and svn/bugzilla are going away.
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[17:48] <xemdetia> So at least for me it's very interesting because it's the stuff I know pretty well being replaced by crazy scale.
[17:49] <whg> xemdetia: Did you know IBM has their own IRC network? BlueNet. It's pretty cool. Hop on there and /msg me and we can chat
[17:49] <whg> Don't want to derail the room with too much off-topic stuff
[17:49] <xemdetia> I'm already on there
[17:50] <whg> sweet
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[19:00] <jimbaker> whg, xemdetia - cool, glad you might be able to work together on some of these issues
[19:00] <whg> way to go on that html5lib pull request, btw, jimbaker
[19:01] <jimbaker> whg, thanks! it is pretty cool that this is the only issue we need to get fixed for pip support to land
[19:02] <jimbaker> the corresponding work took just about a year
[19:06] <whg> oof
[19:07] <whg> I'm glad I started looking at Jython when I did
[19:07] <whg> And not a year ago
[19:07] <whg> pip support is killer
[19:07] <whg> (and will enable tox to work with Jython again, IIRC)
[19:07] <xemdetia> I've never figured out packaging on python. Every time I seem to come back to it it's a new system. :(
[19:10] <whg> xemdetia: Distribute your stuff as source and everything Just Works
[19:10] <whg> Where it gets hairy is binary packaging, especially with C extensions
[19:10] <whg> (which is really the only time that the hassle of binary packaging is worth it, IMHO)
[19:10] <xemdetia> Yeah unfortunately that's where my main interest lies
[19:11] <xemdetia> I love the idea of embedding a scripting language in my programs, often to a fault.
[19:11] <xemdetia> or at least something where I can have a REPL
[19:14] <xemdetia> but that is a dark, dark path that somehow always leads to CORBA
[19:19] <xemdetia> ls
[19:19] <xemdetia> oops
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[21:39] <q5p4k0> greetings.. any insight why I receive a syntax error for try: when I invoke via java weblogic.WLST startMS.py - https://gist.github.com/q5p4k0/9c3624ae5331f91538df
[21:42] <paolo> indentation?
[21:44] <q5p4k0> paolo: is that version specific?
[21:47] <paolo> i see your gist is missing code indentedation. if your code is missing too, it's a syntax error no matter which version.
[21:49] <q5p4k0> paolo: thanks for the help
[21:49] <paolo> does it work?
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