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[19:45] <Symbiosisz> Does anyone happen to know where I can download replacejythonc from? My attempts at Googling are failing me.
[19:54] <jimbaker> Symbiosisz, the only replacement for jythonc is something like the clamp project; some early docs here: https://github.com/jimbaker/clamped
[19:58] <Symbiosisz> jimbaker: thanks!
[19:59] <jimbaker> Symbiosisz, if you end up using it, i would love your feedback; we also a big TODO here - https://github.com/jythontools/clamp#todo
[20:01] <Symbiosisz> jimbaker: I was wondering how the clamped approach differs from jython -m compileall
[20:02] <Symbiosisz> I'm not completely certain what precisely this clamped library does
[20:02] <jimbaker> Symbiosisz, so clamp implicitly uses compileall, because of the use of setuptools
[20:03] <jimbaker> however, compileall does not generate proxies, because class definitions are in python executed when running the top-level script during import (or potentially even later, of course)
[20:04] <Symbiosisz> I certainly appreciate your effort in explaining it to me, but I'd be lying if I said I understand any of that.
[20:04] <Symbiosisz> jimbaker: Fairly new to programming.
[20:04] <Symbiosisz> The main thing that brought me here is most of my experience is in Python. I'm trying to learn Java, but there's some stuff I'd like to still do in Python, so I'd like to be able to write some code in Python and call it from Java.
[20:04] <jimbaker> Symbiosisz, yeah, no worries. let's just say then that because python is a dynamic language, lots of stuff happens at runtime
[20:05] <jimbaker> Symbiosisz, so clamp would seem to work for you then
[20:05] <Symbiosisz> Awesome, alright. I'll read over this read me first before I use your time with questions. Thanks a lot :)
[20:05] <jimbaker> such as the specific bit here, https://github.com/jimbaker/clamped#clamped-demonstrating-the-clamp-package
[20:18] <Symbiosisz> jimbaker: I believe I'm starting to get a bit of a grasp of what clamped does. I'm wondering what exactly differs between jython -m compileall and clamped, though? You mentioned that clamped implicitly calls jython -m compileall, but what exactly is ti adding on top?
[20:19] <Symbiosisz> When I did jython -m compileall I was abl eto get a .class file out of it, but I haven't figured out how to use it yet. For me that approach seems a bit more comfortable if it's as easy as just compiling it and effectively having a java class that I can use
[20:19] <Symbiosisz> but I'm not sure if it's mroe complicated than that
[20:19] <jimbaker> clamp uses setuptools, so that's how compileall works
[20:19] <jimbaker> with it
[20:20] <jimbaker> the generated class files from compileall cannot be directly used from java
[20:20] <jimbaker> however, clamp-generated class files can be
[20:20] <jimbaker> that's the big diff
[20:20] <jimbaker> iab
[20:20] <jimbaker> biab
[20:21] <Symbiosisz> Ahh, okay. That makes sense then. Thank you :)
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