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[13:37] -tomaw- [Global Notice] Hi, yes NickServ, ChanServ etc are gone - we're investigating why right now.
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[16:01] -christel- [Global Notice] Welcome to Splitville, Population: Shrinking -- as you may have noticed the network is suffering under the strain of yet another DDoS attack, we are working with our sponsors to try curb what we can and apologise for the inconvenience.
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[19:22] <ptwobrussell> Just wanted to double check that i'm not missing something - is it really the case that there are no built-in Jython Utilities for coercing a PyDictionary to something that implements Java's Map interface? e.g. if you wanted to coerce to HashMap<String, Object>, you would always need to write your own utility to do that?
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[19:45] <pjenvey> ptwobrussell - PyDictionary implements Map
[19:46] <ptwobrussell> pjenvey - huh, then i must have just been doing something wrong. i appreciate the clarification. so for all practical purposes, i should be able to cast it to a HashMap or anything else that implements a map?
[19:47] <pjenvey> ptwobrussell - well, that means you can just pass it along to any Java method that accepts a Map e.g.
[19:48] <pjenvey> if you called say from java.util import HashMap; m = HashMap(os.environ), that'll give you an actual HashMap. and that works because it's calling HashMap(Map)
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[19:53] <ptwobrussell> pjenvey - i see. ok, the problem i am thinking through is that i have a java interface that i'm using to wrap some python code and expose it as java code, and i'm debating on whether or not i should be returning "standard" Java objects like HashMap or if I should be returning jython objects like PyDictionary and friends. on the one hand, it's not asking too much for users to use the jython objects. on the other hand, it would be nice to hide all of
[19:53] <ptwobrussell> that away from them entirely
[19:59] <pjenvey> how about typing the return value as plain jane Maps
[19:59] <pjenvey> then your users are working on Maps and probably won't even notice if you give them a PyDictionary or a real HashMap
[20:00] <ptwobrussell> pjenvey - now *that* is a good idea
[20:00] <ptwobrussell> and i could do the same thing with PyList vs Array
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[20:03] <ptwobrussell> err. List, I guess it is
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[20:11] <ptwobrussell> well, maybe not
[20:11] <ptwobrussell> org.python.core.PyList cannot be cast to java.util.ArrayList
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[20:15] <pjenvey> use List
[20:17] <ptwobrussell> pjenvey - I have an interface that returns a List, and then in my code I am basically doing this: ArrayList<Object> results = (ArrayList)g.getNodes(x) but getting that cast exception. not really sure what is happening here yet
[20:18] <ptwobrussell> e.g. in the interface: public List getNodes(int x)
[20:18] <ptwobrussell> if I return a PyList though, things seem to work as expected
[20:22] <ptwobrussell> meaning, that if i don't do the cast, things work as expected and i receive the PyList fine
[20:26] <ptwobrussell> i am just missing something fundamental. Analogous situation for trying to cast PyDictionaries as HashMaps.
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[20:31] <pjenvey> ptwobrussell - you probably want to cast to List?
[20:34] <ptwobrussell> pjenvey - that does work. interesting. i really do appreciate your help on this. i think i understand a lot better now.
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