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[0:30] <DarkLinkXXXX> Yo.
[0:30] <DarkLinkXXXX> Anyone around?
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[0:33] <agronholm> yes
[1:00] <paolo> hi, do I need to add a manifest file in the .jar containing my jython project?
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[1:04] <agronholm> paolo: that entirely depends on what you're trying to do with that jar
[1:06] <paolo> the jar contains classes meant to be used by a j2ee wepapp running tomcat
[1:07] <agronholm> you mean, tomcat running a j2ee webapp?
[1:07] <paolo> ops, of course sorry ;)
[1:15] <agronholm> I don't think you need a manifest
[1:17] <paolo> me neither, http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/deployment/jar/manifestindex.html
[1:17] <paolo> I don't need any feature for a manifest file except for versioning, but for that I use mercurial
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[2:15] <DarkLinkXXXX> SyntaxError: 'import *' not allowed with 'from .'
[2:15] <DarkLinkXXXX> Doesn't that seem kinda silly?
[2:15] <agronholm> what version of jython?
[2:15] <DarkLinkXXXX> The dev release.
[2:16] <agronholm> 2.7?
[2:16] <DarkLinkXXXX> Yeah. That one.
[2:16] <agronholm> I've never ever seen anyone do "from . import *"
[2:16] <agronholm> nor does it make any sense to me
[2:17] <DarkLinkXXXX> It was in ipython.
[2:17] <agronholm> relative imports are relatively (heh) rarely seen, and their use is discouraged in PEP 8
[2:17] <agronholm> I see
[2:18] <DarkLinkXXXX> Oh wow. That was their git head even. I guess they never got the memo.
[2:18] <agronholm> perhaps you should open a ticket (include a way to reproduce this in a way that works on CPython but not Jython)
[2:19] <DarkLinkXXXX> I might.
[2:19] <DarkLinkXXXX> Not sure that will ever fix it though. I heard ipython takes advantage of some rather undocumented features.
[2:20] <DarkLinkXXXX> *will fix
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[16:38] <untothebreach> hello! had a quick question about the threading module: it looks like setting `thread.daemon = True` doesn't work as expected in jython, you have to do `thread.setDaemon(True)` in order for the thread to *actually* daemonize
[16:39] <untothebreach> is this a bug? or by design?
[16:39] <untothebreach> not a big deal of course, just a difference between CPython and Jython that I noticed
[16:43] <agronholm> untothebreach: which version of jython?
[16:45] <untothebreach> 2.7
[16:45] <agronholm> I see
[16:45] <agronholm> that's just an oversight issue then
[16:46] <agronholm> would you mind reporting an issue on the bug tracker?
[16:46] <untothebreach> no problem!
[16:46] <untothebreach> thanks!
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[18:21] <untothebreach> agronholm: I filed it, issue #2031
[18:21] <untothebreach> sorry for the delay
[18:26] <agronholm> untothebreach: thanks
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[21:24] <Arfrever> fwierzbicki: ping
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