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[1:41] <thereisnospoon> fwierzbicki, not that concerned personally, but figured that a change that major was probably something that u should get a heads up on
[2:26] <agronholm> what change
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[2:49] <glitch83> Strange question: if I have a reference to a PyObject, can I get a reference to a PyProxy from that?
[2:50] <agronholm> I don't think I've ever done it that way around
[2:51] <agronholm> I also don't think the link is bidirectional
[2:51] <darjus> glitch83: are you doing this in Java or Python?
[2:51] <glitch83> in Java
[2:52] <glitch83> I'm trying to transparently get a reference to the PyProxy reference at construction time when I subclass
[2:52] <glitch83> that's really what I'm after
[2:52] <darjus> at construction time of what/
[2:53] <glitch83> So Jython/subclass/Java but at construction(__init__), it passes a reference of itself up to Java who can hold that copy
[2:54] <glitch83> Then whenever a new version of the class shows up- I can _setPyInstance from Java side
[2:56] <darjus> hm
[2:57] <darjus> can you elaborate a bit on the use case?
[2:59] <glitch83> Imagine a tree of subclassed objects (jython subclassing java), whenever the user redefines a class, then I don't want the user to have to reconstruct the tree - just have the references reload in place
[3:00] <glitch83> that's really what I'm after
[3:00] <darjus> now i'm curious why would you want that... :)
[3:01] <glitch83> haha ;-)
[3:01] <glitch83> edit in place on a running large scale system
[3:01] <glitch83> and to be as noninvasive to your python style as possible
[3:02] <glitch83> I may have to wrap up he objects and get the reference after construction when the PyProxy object is finalized, constructed and held back
[3:02] <glitch83> *handed back
[3:09] <darjus> i think it's possible. all PyObject that are PyProxy have _setPyInstance. so you should be able to use PyObject __finditem__ Something along the lines of this line: https://bitbucket.org/darjus/clamp/src/2a68ba70a139224fc7d966476b66f0f4fa2ddf5e/src/org/python/clamp/Clamper.java?at=default#cl-55
[3:09] <darjus> i'll be away for an hour or so, so may be slow to reply for a while
[3:09] <thereisnospoon> agronholm, 4 fold increase in build+test time
[3:10] <agronholm> can you pinpoint the changeset that caused that?
[3:11] <glitch83> @darjus thanks a bunch - I'll try this out
[3:11] <thereisnospoon> probably, jenkins is running builds for me, just running a build atm, will see how the build time is incase it was an anomoly
[3:12] <agronholm> are we talking 2.7 builds here?
[3:12] <thereisnospoon> ya
[3:14] <thereisnospoon> 2.7 build on latest oracle jdk
[3:29] <glitch83> follow up, this worked: pyObject.invoke("_setPyInstance", newPyObject);
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[4:12] <darjus> glitch83: super!
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[15:05] <topi`> I'm writing a subsystem that needs to be integrated into a larger whole written in java. would it make sense to write it in jython and somehow integrate that? my other option is to learn java.
[15:06] <topi`> but I would want to avoid learning java if at all possible
[15:19] <agronholm> topi`: if you're dealing with a java system, it's unlikely that you can avoid learning java
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[15:53] <topi`> I already know java, but not good enough to be a java hacker
[15:53] <topi`> and newer java versions have a lot of "new stuff"
[15:54] <agronholm> why would you need to be a java hacker?
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