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[4:00] <chrisvj> I am using jython to convert my previosly python program to java. The program runs fine in python, but when I run it in java through Jython, I get an error from twisted (which I am using) saying that the global variable buffer is not defined. I have not added any code in java other than what is required to run the python file. The error occurs when trying to send a message from the twisted server to the twisted client, or vice versa
[4:02] <agronholm> chrisvj: I'm not sure twisted is even supposed to work on Jython
[4:02] <agronholm> it's doubtful
[4:02] <agronholm> why are you converting to java anyway?
[4:02] <chrisvj> oh :/
[4:04] <chrisvj> I was just having problems with python, getting errors on simple things that I should not get errors on, just having general difficulties, plus java is more commonly found on computers than python, i started using java and found i liked i better.
[4:04] <chrisvj> liked it more*
[4:04] <agronholm> with jython you get the problems of both python and java
[4:04] <agronholm> you seriously thought you would avoid errors if you switched to jython/java?
[4:05] <agronholm> not sure what to say :/
[4:06] <chrisvj> i was hoping it would reduce the amount of errors at least, but it looks like i will have to go full java.
[4:06] <agronholm> chrisvj: also, python is installed on every single linux and macos computer
[4:06] <agronholm> java is not
[4:06] <agronholm> so what is your argument based on?
[4:06] <chrisvj> hmm, was not aware it was on mac, knew it was on linux
[4:07] <agronholm> and Windows boxes don't come with either
[4:07] <agronholm> so I'd argue that python is more commonly found than Java is
[4:08] <chrisvj> ok, thank you.
[4:08] <agronholm> chrisvj: also, java's syntax is much clumsier than that of python
[4:08] <agronholm> much more verbose
[4:08] <chrisvj> true
[4:08] <agronholm> the only things java is good for is a) raw speed (if you really need it), b) plenty of existing libs
[4:09] <chrisvj> speed i do need, because i am woking on a game.
[4:09] <agronholm> what kind of game
[4:09] <chrisvj> orpg
[4:09] <chrisvj> possibly (if it is liked) mmorpg
[4:09] <agronholm> what's the o in there about
[4:09] <chrisvj> online
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[16:19] <jimbaker> re twisted: when i last looked at it 3 years ago, you could run a subset of twisted on jython. we fixed the issues relevant to jython, but i don't think there has been sufficient interest from twisted (they are similarly time constrained, so it takes someone who really wants to do this)
[16:21] <jimbaker> there's an interesting project, niosted (java nio + twisted api) https://github.com/fiorix/niosted, but i think it's just for playing with right now
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[20:30] <jimbaker> cool, my talk on jython was accepted for pycon: https://us.pycon.org/2012/schedule/presentation/446/
[20:30] <jimbaker> "Making Jython Faster and Better"
[20:31] <jimbaker> this means we need to get those branches in :)
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