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[13:20] <Glycan> I want to compile to 'pure' java, or at least pure java bytecode.
[13:20] <Glycan> Can I do that?
[13:20] <Glycan> Can I use 2.2's jythonc?
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[17:57] <Glycan> Hello
[17:58] <Glycan> Who's here?
[17:58] <Glycan> I need help with compiling to java
[17:58] <Glycan> I can do that with jythonc, right?
[18:06] <luizribeiro> if you're still using jython 2.2
[18:09] <luizribeiro> (jython 2.5 does not have jythonc anymore)
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[18:53] <Glycan> luizribeiro: I have installed jython 2.2
[18:53] <Glycan> Can I write plugins for bukkit with it?
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[20:15] <abki|home> I may have missed to answer to my question: what's the purpose of *Derived classes...
[20:17] <abki|home> the* answer to my question
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[20:53] <luizribeiro> Glycan: never heard about bukkit, sorry
[20:54] <luizribeiro> abki|home: AFAIK, it's used for operations between classes that derive from one of the builtin types
[20:55] <luizribeiro> abki|home: for example, if you have a class that extends the set builtin type (PySet)
[20:56] <luizribeiro> abki|home: if you have two instances of your class, say A and B. once you do something like A + B, the PySet implementation of __add__ will instantiate a new PySetDerived object, which wraps the correct PyType for your custom class that extends set and the newly created object.
[21:02] <abki|home> But why does it exists, I mean, couldn't PySet do the job ? I don't understand the difference between the two PySet & PySetDerived
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[21:12] <luizribeiro> abki|home: PySetDerived fakes itself, as if PySetDerived objects were from the derived class, instead of PySetDerived
[21:12] <luizribeiro> so if you override methods from PySet on your derived class, the correct methods are called (those you've coded yourself)
[21:15] <abki|home> is it because of the algorithme of __getattribute__ that you have to do something like this ?
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[23:14] <Glycan> What does jython do with jars?
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