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[2:33] <acuozzo> Anything?
[2:38] <acuozzo> Re-ask: Does anyone know of any good/idiomatic (/new!) Jython code for me to read? SourceForge and Google haven't been helpful.
[2:49] <luizribeiro> hi acuozzo
[2:50] <luizribeiro> what kind of Jython code you want to read?
[2:51] <luizribeiro> Jython is used on many different projects
[2:52] <luizribeiro> from FOSS projects like django to proprietary software like application servers from IBM (WAS)
[2:53] <luizribeiro> Jython is also used on GUESS (a graph exploration software): http://graphexploration.cond.org/
[2:54] <luizribeiro> I'm currently working on extending Jython with a few additional operators for graph structures (in a similar way to GUESS), as part of GSoC 2011
[2:55] <luizribeiro> (I'm working with Gephi, which is also a graph manipulation and visualization software: http://www.gephi.org/)
[2:55] <acuozzo> luizribeiro: Sorry, I was away from the computer.
[2:55] <luizribeiro> hope I was useful somehow :)
[2:55] <luizribeiro> acuozzo: oh, no problem
[2:56] <acuozzo> I guess I'm trying to give the "code reading" thing a shot.
[2:57] <acuozzo> So any good/new/idiomatic Jython is fine by me! I'll take a look at what you mentioned.
[2:57] <luizribeiro> GUESS is probably not a good way to learn Jython, though. it has many modifications to Jython's core :)
[2:57] <acuozzo> I come primarily from a low-level systems programming background (C, assembly).
[2:58] <luizribeiro> hmmm, cool
[2:58] <luizribeiro> are you used with Java development?
[2:58] <luizribeiro> *used to
[2:58] <acuozzo> Actually, yes. I'm a rather experienced Java developer, but I really don't like the language itself.
[2:59] <luizribeiro> heh, same here
[2:59] <luizribeiro> :)
[3:00] <acuozzo> I decided on Jython (over Python 3.x) because I really dig SWT.
[3:00] <luizribeiro> Jython is really nice. you get all of the Java API's strengths with the conciseness of Python
[3:01] <acuozzo> I don't see why people say that you can't write C extensions. What about JNI?
[3:01] <luizribeiro> oh, writing C extensions to Jython?
[3:01] <acuozzo> Yes, sorry for the poor wording.
[3:02] <acuozzo> Jython doesn't have any issues with native methods, does it?
[3:02] <luizribeiro> not that I am aware of
[3:02] <acuozzo> Awesome!
[3:03] <Guest28199> Hi! I made Java class which represents a vector (math), and I implemented __add__, __mul__..., which allows me to nicely compute my stuff using Jython. I would now like to turn this class into a Jython list, so that I can access individual elements using syntax like A[i]. How can I do this? I am good at Java, but not familiar with Jython internals. I had a quick look at PyList, PySequence, PySequenceList... sources, but there is little documentation and
[3:03] <Guest28199> cannot distinguish which class I should extend... Please help! :)
[3:03] <luizribeiro> I've read somewhere else that better support to C extensions is planned
[3:03] <acuozzo> I'll be back in a bit.
[3:03] <luizribeiro> but don't take my word as granted, I'm very new to Jython (I started working with it just a few months back)
[3:05] <luizribeiro> Guest28199: I believe you can override the __getitem__ method, in order to have access with the syntax you said
[3:07] <Guest28199> Oh! It would be great if this so easy to do! I will try this immediately. Thanks! :)
[3:07] <luizribeiro> Guest28199: take a look here: http://diveintopython.org/object_oriented_framework/special_class_methods.html#d0e12822
[3:08] <luizribeiro> even though it's a book about Python, this applies to Jython too
[3:08] <luizribeiro> you'll probably want to override the __setitem__ method too, so that you can do stuff like A[i] = foo
[3:11] <Guest28199> Yes, thank you!
[3:16] <luizribeiro> you're welcome :)
[3:19] <Guest28199> I started with a pure Java program, and I must admit I was surprised how simple it was to use my classes from Jython. Now again things are much simpler than what I expected. This is really great about Jython! :)
[3:33] <Guest28199> It works indeed with __getitem__. Very intuitive and very simple! Thanks again! Have a nice day! :)
[3:34] <luizribeiro> indeed, it's very easy to integrate Jython within a Java app, thanks to reflection :)
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[3:34] <luizribeiro> awesome! you too :)
[3:34] <luizribeiro> I'm going to sleep now, bye :)
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