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[1:00] <pr3d4t0r> slestak: Sure.
[1:46] <pjenvey> hrmm we need some hg test commits
[1:46] <pjenvey> just want some folks to try it out to make sure nothing is insane
[1:47] <pjenvey> Oti - think we still need a public key for you, as well
[1:47] <pjenvey> just commit anything, just to go through the paces, i'll reset it all when we finally switch
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[2:46] <juneau001> pjenvey: I will get a test commit done tomorrow, sorry for the delay
[2:52] <juneau001> pjenvey: cloning now, keys working fine
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[3:13] <juneau001> pjenvey: I am not able to pull the entire test repo...I receive the following error ->
[3:13] <juneau001> abort: repository [svn] https://svn.python.org/projects/python/branches/release26-maint/Lib/ not found!
[3:13] <juneau001> I will keep trying in case something has gone awry on my end
[3:20] <pjenvey> juneau001 - does svn co of the same url work?
[3:20] <pjenvey> also what version of hg do you have
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[3:34] <juneau001> pjenvey: Mercurial Distributed SCM (version 1.3.1)
[3:35] <juneau001> I get this msg when trying: svn checkout http://hg.python.org/jython -> svn: XML data was not well-formed
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[3:35] <agronholm> 1.3.1? wow that' OLD
[3:35] <juneau001> very old I guess
[3:36] <juneau001> should update
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[3:36] <agronholm> I thought my 1.6.1 was old when I upgrades to 1.8.1
[3:36] <agronholm> -s+d
[3:36] <juneau001> I will update and try again
[3:49] <juneau001> updated Mercurial Distributed SCM (version 1.8.2+20110401)
[3:54] <juneau001> pjenvey agronholm: that did it...my hg was too old...working fine now
[3:54] <juneau001> thanks
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[7:19] <pjenvey> juneau001, agronholm - good good
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[7:21] <ohumbel> pjenvey - i'll try in a few hours, sorry for the delay
[7:22] <agronholm> ohumbel: any progress on the maven front?
[7:24] <ohumbel> agronholm - not yet, my next trial will be to copy the files by hand and try to succeed the build
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[11:20] <juneau001> pjenvey: Test commit was successful
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[13:53] <akitada> How can I declare a reference to a Java's abstract class in Jython?
[14:08] <agronholm> akitada: declare? reference?
[14:10] <agronholm> explain please
[14:12] <akitada> In Java, "SomeAbstractDataType var = new ClassImplementingAbstract;"
[14:12] <agronholm> you don't declare types in Python
[14:12] <agronholm> as you should know
[14:12] <akitada> Yes, I know.
[14:12] <agronholm> why ask then
[14:13] <akitada> My question was how can I translate code as above into Jyton.
[14:13] <agronholm> var = ClassImplementingAbstract()
[14:15] <akitada> That's what I did and it failed with "can't instantiate abstract"
[14:15] <agronholm> are you trying to instantiate an abstract class then?
[14:16] <agronholm> I thought you were talking about a class that _implements_ that abstract class
[14:16] <agronholm> those you can instantiate just fine
[14:17] <akitada> Sorry, let me rephrase that.
[14:18] <akitada> In Java 'SomeAbstractDataType var; var.setFoo("x"); var.setVar("y");'
[14:19] <agronholm> that does not work
[14:19] <agronholm> you have to set var to an actual instance first
[14:20] <akitada> Hmm, That java snippet compiles...
[14:20] <agronholm> are you sure you don't have any hidden code between?
[14:22] <agronholm> akitada: even if that somehow compiles, it won't work
[14:22] <akitada> I don't have the code right now, that why my question is obscure.
[14:22] <agronholm> unless you set var to an instance of SomeAbstractDataType
[14:22] <akitada> I think I understand.
[14:23] <akitada> I think I need a real example for this.
[14:23] <agronholm> are you a java newbie?
[14:24] <akitada> Right. That's why I use Jython.
[15:01] <akitada> Well, it was static class method.
[15:01] <agronholm> what was?
[15:02] <akitada> so it should be translated as: SomeAbstractDataType.setFoo(); SomeAbstractDataType.setBar()
[15:02] <agronholm> so var was in fact not involved at all?
[15:03] <akitada> yes, it just change static class variables.
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[15:04] <akitada> The method name made me confused but I should have looked at the code more carefully.
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[15:05] <akitada> Thank you for your help, anyway :-)
[15:07] <akitada> import sys
[15:08] <akitada> import json
[15:08] <akitada> sorry, wrong window
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[16:46] <akitada> is the latest jython jar available any maven repository?
[16:46] <agronholm> no :/
[16:47] <agronholm> I've been bugging ohumber about it, but progress is slow
[16:47] <agronholm> *ohumbel
[16:50] <akitada> good to know it's planned even if it's moving rather slowly
[16:56] <akitada> with maven, jython app deployment would be much more easier than this, I think: http://wiki.python.org/jython/JythonFaq/DistributingJythonScripts
[16:57] <agronholm> depends on how you deploy
[16:58] <agronholm> I deploy my app using java web start and we have no need for maven
[16:59] <akitada> planning to put everything in a jar and push it to production and read it.
[16:59] <agronholm> is it a web app?
[17:00] <akitada> now I use APT for each required package and adjusting CLASSPATH and I'm tired of doing that
[17:00] <akitada> No, it's a simple command line app.
[17:00] <agronholm> apt? why the heck? that usually gives you old versions of everything
[17:00] <agronholm> including jython :)
[17:01] <agronholm> especially jython
[17:01] <akitada> it's my package
[17:01] <agronholm> what is?
[17:02] <akitada> I built jython package for myself
[17:02] <akitada> 2.5.2
[17:02] <agronholm> I see
[17:02] <agronholm> the standalone installer does work too...
[17:03] <akitada> and deploying software just as I do for CPython and which didn't work so great for Jython.
[17:03] <agronholm> why's that
[17:03] <akitada> is standalone the only one .jar setup?
[17:04] <agronholm> yes
[17:04] <akitada> well, I built it in normal mode.
[17:04] <akitada> Just because I thought it might be faster.
[17:05] <agronholm> I use the standard installation in development but I deploy my app with a custom build of jython where all the modules have been precompiled
[17:06] <agronholm> takes more space but starts faster
[17:06] <akitada> deploying CPython app with apt is easy and straightforward because it just need to care about .py and .so files. Handling .jar files needs a bit more care (remember I'm not so familiar with java)
[17:07] <agronholm> how do you normally deploy your apps?
[17:08] <akitada> I use standard installation, too.
[17:08] <agronholm> that doesn't answer the question
[17:09] <agronholm> how is apt-tools involved?
[17:09] <akitada> I use apt for installing required packages.
[17:09] <agronholm> why not pip or something
[17:09] <akitada> jython itself, my own .py code, some jars.
[17:10] <agronholm> yeah right, pip doesn't install jython
[17:10] <agronholm> so you make .deb packages of everything?
[17:10] <akitada> I heard there's pip for jython
[17:10] <agronholm> pip works on jython as usual
[17:11] <akitada> http://pypi.python.org/pypi/jip/
[17:11] <agronholm> oh right, that is totally something else
[17:12] <agronholm> pip installs python distributions
[17:12] <akitada> yes
[17:12] <agronholm> but jip installs jars
[17:13] <akitada> I wanted to do everything in consistent manner. so apt.
[17:14] <akitada> and tired :)
[17:15] <akitada> so now I'm thinking that how it works if I do everything with maven and put everything in a jar.
[17:18] <akitada> jip looks interesting.
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[19:01] <pjenvey> juneau001 - btw you probably want to change your hg username to include your full name (as it was changed to during the conversion)
[19:01] <pjenvey> https://bitbucket.org/pjenvey/pymigr/src/d6ba8bc50601/jython-authors.txt
[19:02] <juneau001> pjenvey: thanks, will do
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[21:13] <Oti> pjenvey - you were right, my public ssh key is missing. Sent to you directly by mail. THANKS!
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