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[0:35] <rxKaffee> on the page http://www.jython.org/docs/_sources/index.txt, it says all modules in the library directory will import
[0:35] <rxKaffee> however when I try to import termios, it can not be found
[0:36] <agronholm> because there is no such module?
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[0:38] <rxKaffee> agronholm: are you telling me that contrary to index.txt, termios does not exist for jython? or are you asking me if "No moduled named termios" is the verbatim error?
[0:39] <agronholm> rxKaffee: do you see a termios.py in jython's Lib directory?
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[0:46] <rxKaffee> agronholm: if termios and tty are not distributed with jython, why does the url I linked say that all modules listed in that directory will import?
[0:47] <agronholm> termios is not listed in the dictory, is it?
[0:47] <agronholm> *directory
[0:47] <rxKaffee> http://www.jython.org/docs/_sources/library/termios.txt
[0:47] <rxKaffee> it is
[0:47] <rxKaffee> http://www.jython.org/docs/_sources/library/tty.txt also is
[0:48] <agronholm> someone probably forgot to remove those
[0:48] <rxKaffee> ah
[0:48] <agronholm> not everything can be implemented in Java
[0:48] <rxKaffee> is there some alternative avail for terminal control?
[0:49] <agronholm> is there something you specifically need jython for?
[0:49] <agronholm> (rather than CPython that is)
[0:50] <rxKaffee> I'm writing some java classes, to be used by another group who have a python commandline program utilising the urwid curses interface library
[0:50] <rxKaffee> urwid is what actually needs termios/tty
[0:50] <agronholm> you may want to look up py4j
[0:50] <rxKaffee> and it seems jython is the only option to allow their python project to utilise java classes that I would write
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[0:50] <agronholm> I was planning on using that myself
[0:51] <agronholm> no, it's not the only option :)
[0:51] <rxKaffee> well, I should say, its the only option I had been able to locate :)
[0:51] <agronholm> py4j allows you to use pure java and CPython, isolated to their respective processes
[0:51] <agronholm> but bridged almost seamlessly
[0:51] <rxKaffee> ah nice
[0:52] <rxKaffee> are there any other similar options that you know of?
[0:52] <agronholm> execnet allows you to bridge cpython and jython
[0:52] <agronholm> but it's gpl licensed
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[0:53] <agronholm> rpyc has similar functionality but it's not as polished, but it is MIT licensed
[0:53] <agronholm> requires a patch just to get it to work on jython :P
[0:58] <rxKaffee> thanks agronholm, sounds like of those your first suggestion of py4j would be most applicable
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[1:08] <rxKaffee> agronholm: any thoughts on creating a java class and turning it to a machinecode library with GCJ, then using ctypes to access it from python?
[1:09] <agronholm> sounds like a bad idea
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[1:13] <rxKaffee> is the ctypes interface not so great or something?
[1:13] <agronholm> dangerous
[1:13] <agronholm> easy to shoot yourself in the foot with
[1:13] <agronholm> not to mention combining it with gcj
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[1:50] <agronholm> pjenvey: I can't help but to wonder if you saw a completely different patch than I did, based on your comments
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[2:31] <pjenvey> agronholm - what did I miss? it allows IPV6 to _realsocket (which is basically the socket.socket impl)
[2:32] <pjenvey> so that's the ipv6 support, then he basically reverted Oti's patch and instead forces ipv4 addresses from getaddrinfo if you have toggled the workaround
[2:32] <agronholm> assert family in (AF_INET, AF_INET6) <- this wasn't there before oti's patch?
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[2:33] <pjenvey> right, before it was assert family == AF_INET, "Only AF_INET sockets are currently supported on jython"
[2:33] <agronholm> if adding ipv6 support was that simple, why not do that before?
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[2:34] <pjenvey> i guess alan was really concerned about winxp
[2:34] <agronholm> -_-'
[2:34] <pjenvey> he wrote most of that module for 2.2, it was a while ago
[2:34] <pjenvey> so winxp was a bigger concern back then
[2:34] <pjenvey> he logged a bug with sun about it, he hoped they'd just fix it but that didn't pan out
[2:35] <agronholm> then that was what I was missing from the patch
[2:35] <agronholm> then it makes sense
[2:35] <pjenvey> i think he said he was intending to do it for 2.5 but didn't get around to it
[2:35] <pjenvey> ipv6 i mean
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