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[0:03] <agronholm> pjenvey: ?
[0:17] <pjenvey> agronholm - sorry, i'm updating the bug
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[0:28] <agronholm> entry = entry.__str__();
[0:28] <agronholm> won't this cause the same problem?
[0:28] <agronholm> oh sorry
[0:28] <agronholm> I missed the negation
[0:29] <agronholm> does python allow values other than str/unicode as sys.path elements?
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[0:32] <agronholm> hm no it doesn't
[0:32] <agronholm> CPython seems to ignore all values that aren't str/unicode
[0:32] <agronholm> is there any reason why Jython tries to convert them to strings?
[0:32] <pjenvey> are you getting at how we're calling __str__ on anything from sys.path. which could be make a '1' a '"1"'
[0:33] <pjenvey> that could be another bug there, sure
[0:33] <agronholm> erm, '1'.__str__() is still '1'
[0:34] <agronholm> nevertheless, the string conversion needs to die
[0:35] <pjenvey> maybe we guard against that somewhere, but I kind of doubt it
[0:35] <pjenvey> CPython does a check and just skips it if it's not str/unicode
[0:36] <agronholm> as should Jython
[0:36] <pjenvey> we'd might have to make that fix in those 3 places in my patch, I think they all look into sys.path
[0:37] <pjenvey> we'd need another test case
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[0:50] <agronholm> is there a particular reason why jython returns None from sys.getfilesystemencoding()?
[0:52] <pjenvey> it hasn't been implemented yet, basically. like I said in 2.2, where unicode/str were basically the same thing
[0:52] <pjenvey> it didn't even make sense back then
[0:52] <agronholm> couldn't it just return the value of System.getProperty('file.encoding')
[0:53] <agronholm> not sure what it returns on Windows though
[0:53] <pjenvey> http://bugs.jython.org/issue1658
[0:53] <pjenvey> i talk about it there some
[0:53] <pjenvey> it's 'mbcs' on windows
[0:53] <pjenvey> I mean, python's filesystem encoding is. Java file.encoding on windows is dependent on the locale
[0:55] <pjenvey> when we make PyString backed by real bytes (in 2.6 maybe), we definitely need to support file system encoding
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[1:16] <pjenvey> agronholm - i committed that patch
[1:16] <pjenvey> you're CC'd, like you didn't already know anyway
[1:16] <pjenvey> I suppose we should do another RC with all the fixes we've got since the last one. though I really don't want to, I want to release 2.5.2 yesterday
[1:18] <agronholm> pjenvey: wouldn't it have been easier to ignore everything except PyString/PyUnicode like CPython does?
[1:18] <agronholm> just wondering
[1:18] <pjenvey> that fix wouldn't have done anything for #1658
[1:18] <pjenvey> if that's what you mean
[1:19] <agronholm> oh
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[8:02] <Oti> pjenvey, agronholm - thanks, wow!
[8:03] <Oti> i am now doing all the installation platform tests with a fullbuild of revision 7182
[8:04] <Oti> and, if no showstopper arises, going for rc3
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[16:52] <takeshita_kenji> Hello everyone. I'm having a bit of trouble with writing some Jython involving file I/O.
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