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[14:04] <agronholm> for some reason, a Java exception is slipping past a Python try...except clause under Java Web Start
[14:04] <agronholm> trying to figure out why
[14:05] <agronholm> and this was with a generic except clause with no exception type specified
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[21:27] <whuuu> hey, i came up to a strange error using eclipse with jython (2.5.2b2). I created a jythonlib.jar according to http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1252965/distributing-my-python-scripts-as-jars-with-jython and put it into my eclipse projects lib directory. I'm calling the jython script in a java class with the PythonInterpreter object. Somehow I get an exception because the yield statements aren't working (invalid syntax). It only occurs wh
[21:27] <whuuu> run it in eclipse; it works correctly in the console. any ideas?
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[21:41] <whuuu> whoh, solved it after about 3 hourse...
[21:41] <jimbaker> whuuu: what was the problem?
[21:43] <whuuu> there was org.python.core in the required bundles in manifest.mf which included the (old) pydev libraries instead of those of the jythonlib.jar
[21:43] <whuuu> I noticed it when I removed pydev
[22:00] <jimbaker> whuuu: makes sense in where this might get confused. i wonder if better osgi integration could help here? regardless that's a jython 2.6 issue
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[23:42] <agronholm> jimbaker: should pdb work under java web start?
[23:42] <agronholm> if I have the java console turned on
[23:42] <jimbaker> agronholm: i have never tried. but sure, it should
[23:42] <agronholm> well it doesn't
[23:42] <jimbaker> if not, that's definitely a bug
[23:43] <jimbaker> we definitely need more testing on cases like these
[23:43] <agronholm> I get IOError: The handle is invalid
[23:44] <agronholm> I'm trying to figure out why an exception gets printed on the console despite having set sys.excepthook and setting an uncaught exception handler on the java side as well
[23:44] <agronholm> it only happens under jws
[23:44] <jimbaker> yeah, i don't know specifically what that means. i neither use pdb or web start. but pdb is simple enough that should always work. the challenge is probably seen in the sys setup as you mentioned
[23:45] <agronholm> according to the console message, the exception occurs in MainThread, which should be impossible
[23:46] <agronholm> not only do I have a try...except there, but I have the exception handlers for both Java and Python
[23:46] <agronholm> I'm really at a loss here
[23:46] <jimbaker> hmmm... well if the problem is in the setup for pdb, i could see it being confused like that
[23:47] <agronholm> I only tried pdb just now
[23:47] <agronholm> I was trying to figure out the problem with basic stderr messages
[23:47] <jimbaker> just speculating here - i would have to review the code - but pdb is necessarily tied into exception handling
[23:47] <jimbaker> agronholm: so the problem occurs w/o pdb?
[23:47] <agronholm> yes
[23:48] <agronholm> but I'll remove the exception handlers and see if pdb works then
[23:48] <jimbaker> sounds good
[23:49] <agronholm> nope, still getting the same error, except this time I'm not getting an error dialog for it
[23:49] <agronholm> since the exception handlers have been disabled
[23:51] <agronholm> I'm working with .class files entirely, could that be the cause?
[23:51] <jimbaker> ok, probably the best bet is to create a simple test case, ideally with a unit test for the desired behavior
[23:52] <agronholm> I only deploy compiled classes on jws
[23:52] <jimbaker> agronholm: you mean $py.class? i don't think it matters
[23:52] <agronholm> ok
[23:52] <agronholm> creating an unit test for jws is a veritable nightmare
[23:53] <agronholm> as if the interactive mode swing test wasn't hard enough
[23:53] <jimbaker> agronholm: yeah, i was afraid of something like that. but since i have no idea about jws, we need to help someone like myself out
[23:53] <agronholm> I have no idea how to invoke jws programmatically
[23:55] <agronholm> I may have an idea what is causing this
[23:56] <agronholm> ok, raw_input() gives the same error
[23:56] <jimbaker> agronholm: in the context of jws? or by itself?
[23:56] <agronholm> in jws
[23:57] <agronholm> apparently the java console does not accept input
[23:59] <agronholm> System.console() returns null
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