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[0:13] <slestak> have a design problem that I think jython can help with
[0:13] <slestak> i have a db that has a very mature java driver, however, I am not a java dev. i would love to create a json-rpc proxy server to interface this java driver with cpython
[0:17] <slestak> i dont want to define my rpc methods in java, those will be either on the unix db (unidata) or in python.
[0:17] <slestak> maybe this is a job for MQ? Use rabbitmq to queue up these requests?
[0:22] <slestak> anyone available to discuss rpc over rabbit?
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[0:46] <agronholm> what db if I may ask
[0:47] <agronholm> slestak: at any rate, execnet is the solution you are looking for
[0:49] <slestak> it is a multivalue db called Unidata, now owned by Rocket SOftware
[0:50] <agronholm> you could run your entire app in jython if that's an option
[0:50] <agronholm> if not, use execnet
[0:50] <agronholm> or rpyc
[0:50] <slestak> been through 5-6 hands in the past decade, the design dates back to 1970 or so. it is good, just no bindings I am comfortable with
[0:51] <slestak> googling the products you mentioned, brb
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[0:52] <slestak> i thought about jython, but I would really liek to keep it open to cpython as well. techically, all i need is a jython json-rpc server
[0:52] <agronholm> why json-rpc? did you check out execnet and rpyc yet?
[0:52] <slestak> i am doin gthat now
[0:52] <agronholm> those are the ideal solutions for your problem
[0:53] <slestak> oh, execnet is from the fine ppl that brought up lxml :)
[0:53] <slestak> s/up/us
[0:53] <agronholm> it might have licensing probs
[0:55] <slestak> is rpyc like an ORB?
[0:55] <jimbaker> Execnet is GPL. Depends
[0:55] <agronholm> GPL is usually bad news for commercial apps
[0:56] <slestak> this is not for distribution
[0:56] <slestak> i am trying to gain better access to my data thats held hostage by a crap db
[0:56] <agronholm> then it might work for you
[0:59] <slestak> i was using json as a serialization target, json-rpc is not a must-have
[1:00] <slestak> java has to be included, its the binding I have the documantiation for, and I dont think I could manage the C one or implemented a socket server
[1:01] <slestak> execnet seems like the closest of the two
[1:01] <slestak> for my problem
[1:16] <slestak> agronholm: do you think the transaprent nature of rpyc is a good thing for rpc that includes network latency?
[1:17] <slestak> i am not very good with async programming
[1:17] <agronholm> well that depends on your requirements, doesn't it
[1:23] <agronholm> slestak: are you not going to run your app one the same box as the db?
[1:23] <agronholm> s/one/on/
[1:24] <slestak> well, define app. there are several apps here.
[1:25] <slestak> the actual interface with teh java driver will be local
[1:25] <agronholm> so where is the rpc network latency then
[1:26] <slestak> i didnt check if rpyc will work with jython...
[1:26] <agronholm> it should, with a small patch
[1:27] <slestak> ahh, you are the current maintainer?
[1:27] <slestak> or just a motivated user :0
[1:27] <slestak> :)
[1:28] <agronholm> I'm the unmotivated current maintainer, or something...
[1:28] <slestak> MDFL
[1:28] <agronholm> I was tasked with coming up with a fixed version but tons of other stuff came up
[1:28] <agronholm> haven't worked on it for a while
[1:29] <slestak> malevolent dictator for life maybe?
[1:29] <agronholm> I'm not a dictator in anything rpyc related
[1:29] <agronholm> tomer is
[1:30] <slestak> i think teh queuing and groups in execnet look interesting. wouldnt it seem like a decent move though to just use celery maybe?
[1:30] <agronholm> celery?
[1:30] <slestak> i dont want to create sth that is python only
[1:30] <agronholm> why not
[1:31] <slestak> convenience classes for AMQP
[1:31] <agronholm> I don't see what you need messaging for here
[1:31] <agronholm> seems overkill
[1:31] <slestak> kk
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[1:35] <slestak> thx for your time agronholm, youve given me a lot to think about
[1:36] <agronholm> np
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[12:42] <pr3d4t0r> Good morning.
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[20:01] <slestak> agronholm: hiya, we were discussing execnet and rpyc yesterday.
[20:02] <slestak> i need to determine the safety of having am isolated jdk for this server. we have existing crufty software that uses java 1.4.2 that I dont want to chance not being compatible
[20:03] <slestak> what is the minimum java that jython requires?
[20:05] <slestak> got this error trying to install jython with 1.4.2 The java class could not be loaded. java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: org/python/util/install/Installation (Unsupported major.minor version 49.0)
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[20:11] <slestak> can anyone confirm if 2.5.2 shhould work with Java 1.4.2?
[20:15] <slestak> i see, jython 2.2.1 was the last to support java 1.4.2
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