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IRC Log for 2010-09-09

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[15:04] <jbaker_> Oti: looks there's a serious bug related to my fix in http://bugs.jython.org/issue1327
[15:04] <jbaker_> geoffrey french is a reliable reporter of such issues... and the fix is simple so i'm going to look at it now
[15:05] <jbaker_> (fortunately just one line to fix!)
[15:18] <jbaker_> hmm, i wonder if something deeper is going on here
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[15:46] <jbaker_> ok, it looks the problem is probably bad double checked locking (a little more subtle granted because of the thread local aspect)
[15:47] <jbaker_> we probably need to do a findbugs pass on jython; integrating it with ant would be a good thing too
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[16:59] <jbaker_> so r7117 is in which should fix geoffrey's problem
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[17:38] <agronholm> findbugs tends to find a shitload of stuff that isn't even remotely a problem
[17:38] <agronholm> sometimes it flags valid constructs as problems even when they're the only possible solution
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[17:48] <jimbaker> agronholm: agreed on findbugs. still it's a useful tool
[17:48] <jimbaker> agronholm: you may want to look at trunk, geoffrey was actually seeing this when working with SwingUtils
[17:49] <agronholm> specifically with what parts of it?
[17:49] <agronholm> the only part I can think of that could cause gc problems is swingutils binding
[17:50] <agronholm> or maybe the events system
[17:50] <jimbaker> see http://bugs.jython.org/msg6057
[17:50] <jimbaker> i assume we are talking about the same swing utils :)
[17:52] <agronholm> no, we aren't
[17:53] <agronholm> I confused that with jython-swingutils
[17:53] <juneau001> http://www.jython.org/jythonbook/en/1.0/ is now live
[17:55] <jimbaker> juneau001: thanks! i guess we can close out http://bugs.jython.org/issue1649
[17:56] <juneau001> Just about...I want to get all of the links changed as well.
[17:56] <juneau001> Frank owns the jythonbook.com domain so I will need to have him change that...but I can take care of the others
[17:56] <jimbaker> fwierzbicki: can you repoint jythonbook.com to this new site?
[17:57] <juneau001> thanks
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[18:16] <jimbaker> i must say, i really want to deprecate all code paths that don't pass an explicit ThreadState around. ok, now that's off my chest ;)
[18:20] <agronholm> couldn't that be handled with a thread local object?
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[18:21] <jimbaker> agronholm: it is. but thread locals introduce two issues: 1) working with thread pools; 2) class loader leaks
[18:22] <jimbaker> pernicious, evil, i don't usually get worked on this stuff, but it's a bug that keeps on giving me headaches ;)
[18:24] <jimbaker> unfortunately there are no good alternatives until possibly 2.6
[18:25] <jimbaker> but i'm pretty certain jruby mandates an explicit equivalent to a ThreadState, something like "Context"
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[18:56] <fwierzbicki> jimbaker: sure, it may take me a little time to dig up my credentials for that site :)
[18:57] <jimbaker> fwierzbicki: we probably want to transfer this site, along with jyborg.com, to PSF so they can administer for us
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[19:12] <fwierzbicki> ok - redirecting! I just registered jythonbook.org as well - I think I forgot before. I'll point that one too when the registration goes through
[19:12] <fwierzbicki> Just tried it and it works
[19:12] <fwierzbicki> jythonbook.com that is
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[23:53] <jimbaker> ohumbel: are you planning on working on the beta 2 tonight?
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