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IRC Log for 2010-08-16

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[3:28] <jimbaker> bpython uses curses. jython doesn't support curses, and i likely won't. (although one could start with http://sourceforge.net/projects/javacurses/ to support it)
[3:28] <jimbaker> sorry, that got mangled - "likely it won't"
[3:28] <jimbaker> firestarter: ^^^
[3:29] <jimbaker> however there's a jython specific console that's similar - http://code.google.com/p/jythonconsole/
[3:30] <jimbaker> pygments support could be nice i guess
[3:30] <jimbaker> as well as the use of inspect
[4:00] <agronholm> has anyone compiled a list of stdlib packages/modules that are not supported in jython?
[4:00] <agronholm> that could be very useful
[4:11] <sabi> probably not as useful as just fixing them :)
[4:11] <sabi> "look how crappy jython is" isn't terribly useful.
[4:16] <agronholm> sabi, makes it easier to fix it I knew WHAT was missing
[4:16] <agronholm> and also to potential jython users
[4:16] <agronholm> so they know whether features they need are even there
[4:32] <sabi> jimbaker: you might be better off just putting the jsr 223 stuff in the existing java test stuff (ScriptEngineTest.java)
[4:32] <sabi> that way you don't have trouble with regrtest
[4:32] <jimbaker> sabi: yeah, i know
[4:32] <sabi> ah ok, thought you might have missed it. :)
[4:33] <jimbaker> i have a perverse desire it seems to always test jython functionality with jython ;)
[4:33] <jimbaker> in general, it should work. so we might want to revisit, because it seems odd that sys would get modified in this way
[4:35] <sabi> sys in jython is such a bizarre beast
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[5:01] <jimbaker> agronholm: ideally we would update http://www.jython.org/docs/ to indicate what's not supported. as well as finish the backport from 2.6 of these docs
[5:01] <jimbaker> (we chose to use 2.6 docs as the base as they were translated to restructuredtext, which is much easier for us to work with)
[5:04] <jimbaker> probably the ideal timing is when we have finished beta 2
[5:04] <jimbaker> in terms of starting work on this
[5:07] <jimbaker> i would also like to see some FAQ harvesting, from such sources as jython-users and http://stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/jython
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[15:48] <treeform> has any one run into problems with jython's struct module?
[15:48] <treeform> python and jython give totally different results http://dpaste.org/4D6D/
[15:49] <treeform> nothing in the docs says jython uses "some other convetion" then C
[15:50] <treeform> oh i got it byte orders "Native byte order is big-endian or little-endian, depending on the host system. For example, Motorola and Sun processors are big-endian; Intel and DEC processors are little-endian."
[15:51] <treeform> thanks!
[15:52] <jimbaker> and java is always big endian
[15:53] <treeform> yeah forgot about that
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[16:46] <jimbaker> btw, jythonc is finally dead, as of r7096
[16:49] <jimbaker> it's about time :) - really good ideas in jythonc in terms of the user experience, we just need to make certain here that these ideas are reborn, and not keep fighting off the old ghost in terms of potential user confusion
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[22:00] <jbrendel> Hello! Sorry I wasn't able to check in here for a while.
[22:01] <jbrendel> agronholm, you had looked at the getaddrinfo() delay. Did you have any chance to find out what the problem seems to be?
[22:01] <jbrendel> I get the impression that this is only an issue if more than one IP address are returned by DNS.
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