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[5:59] <Oti> sabi - could you please kiss awake the linux build bots?
[5:59] <Oti> i pinged them, but with no luck
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[12:44] <sabi> Oti: the computers were never rebooted after the power outage
[12:44] <sabi> i'll see if i can find someone to reboot them - they are in a different machine room from the buildmaster
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[13:32] <jimbaker> so it looks like the whole extlibs problem in the 1522 patch was due to some hard ref dependency. i made our exposed types hard by default (seems reasonable), then weakened every other usage through the PyType#fromClass method
[13:35] <jimbaker> clearly if users ever use exposed types for their classes, this should not be done. but that's not something we support now anyway
[13:38] <jimbaker> (given that the registration process is very visible, eg a static initialization per exposed class like this -- public static final PyType TYPE = PyType.fromClass(PyUnicode.class); -- i don't see it being a problem, unless there's blind copying of this idiom of usage)
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[18:04] <illsci> hey anyone around?
[18:06] <illsci> how come import com.vmware.vim25.mo.ServiceInstance gives me undefined exceptions when I use ServiceInstance
[18:06] <illsci> but from com.vmware.vim25.mo import *
[18:06] <illsci> works when i do si = ServiceInstance(url,username,password,True)
[18:10] <illsci> nevermind... i see i have to from com.blah import blah
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