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[0:01] <pjenvey> Oti - anyone can set the topic, so there ya go
[0:01] <pjenvey> thanks for setting up irc logs
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[0:02] <Oti> pjenvey: you're welcome, and thanks for the topic change !
[0:03] <Oti> (i've ordered the 'IRC hacks' book to learn a bit more)
[0:03] <sabi> maybe we just need a single web page with all the links in the topic now :)
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[0:05] <Oti> sabi: there is one in the wiki, i'll update it to contain all the links
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[0:13] <Oti> done (http://wiki.python.org/jython/IrcChannel)
[0:14] <Oti> but i have no problem if they stay in the topic as well, they serve as a welcome
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[0:32] <sabi> of course
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[16:32] <rafanunes> There is some tutorial how to build jython from the sources?
[16:33] <rafanunes> Founded it http://www.jython.org/archive/21/docs/compile.html
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[16:45] <ohumbel> rafanunes: this should give you a start as well: http://wiki.python.org/jython/JythonDeveloperGuide
[16:49] <rafanunes> ohumbel: Thank you!
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[17:55] <jony_kalavera> hi
[17:58] <jony_kalavera> so i followed everyone's advice and generated my war file using the same JRE (IBM's 1.5) as the Websphere AS 6.1 but i still get this error from modjy http://pastebin.com/nrFXiLHS
[18:01] <Oti> jony_kalavera: this is a lot better (no more invalid class stuff)
[18:01] <Oti> it is an explicit exception: modjy.modjy_exceptions.ApplicationException: len() of unsized object, in modjy.py
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[18:08] <Oti> looking at modjy.py, it could be that you find a more detailed exception in the logs (just guessing)
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[18:21] <jony_kalavera> ...
[18:21] <jony_kalavera> ups
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[18:25] <jony_kalavera> here's the complete version of the log file when calling to an url of the app: http://pastebin.com/PKVNL7dS
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[19:45] <tulcod> i'm looking to avoid writing java code for my java class next semester. could jython be helpful here?
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[19:51] <pr3d4t0r> tulcod: Jython is a Python implementation that runs on JVM, so no.
[19:51] <pr3d4t0r> tulcod: Jython would be useful if you were learning Python :)
[19:52] <tulcod> pr3d4t0r: wait, i'm not following you. i can use jython to execute python code as if it were java, right?
[19:55] <pjenvey> I'm guessing a Java class is going to want you to produce Java code, not Python code
[19:55] <pjenvey> Jython isn't going to translate python code into java code, it comes down to bytecode
[19:55] <pjenvey> s/comes/compiles/
[19:55] <tulcod> hm, alright
[19:56] <tulcod> that /might/ be sufficient...
[19:56] <pjenvey> but it could help play around with Java classes
[19:56] <pjenvey> Jython's great for playing around with Java objects in the repl
[19:57] <pr3d4t0r> tulcod: It won't help you much ;)
[19:57] <tulcod> hm, alright
[19:58] <tulcod> still guys.. what you're doing is just black magic
[19:58] <pr3d4t0r> tulcod: In order for you to leverage Jython as a Java enhancement you must know Java and its libraries already ;)
[19:58] <tulcod> pr3d4t0r: i know java
[19:58] <tulcod> i just don't want to code in it
[19:58] <tulcod> it's horrible, imo
[19:58] <pr3d4t0r> tulcod: Amen.
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[20:15] <jony_kalavera> i'm getting nowhere with this error : modjy.modjy_exceptions.ApplicationException: len() of unsized object
[20:20] <pjenvey> jony_kalavera - you're probably doing something wrong, but I don't know what
[20:20] <pjenvey> you should log a ticket, I don't know why modjy rethrows exceptions like that, it's hiding the original problem
[20:20] <jony_kalavera> modjy just throws the exception but the traceback hides i'ts origin
[20:20] <pjenvey> right
[20:20] <jony_kalavera> also the same app runs fine with djangos testserver
[20:21] <pjenvey> it can do that in py3 when we get real chained exceptions, but until then it shouldn't
[20:21] <jony_kalavera> yup jaja read your msg too late
[20:23] <agronholm> I didn't know py3k can do chained exceptions
[20:23] <pjenvey> i guess it can raise is own exception with the original traceback too but that's always kind of weird as the exceptions look mismatched
[20:23] <agronholm> that's a big step forward
[20:25] <jony_kalavera> ok i'llo try something wild. i'll hack into modjy to add some asserts to find out the real error. wish me luck
[20:26] <pjenvey> good luck =]
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