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[1:23] <Arfrever> jimbaker: ping
[1:38] <jimbaker> Arfrever, hi
[1:42] <Arfrever> jimbaker: Does this command work for you?: jython2.7 -c 'import datetime; print(datetime.datetime.strptime("2015-01-22", "%Y-%m-%d"))'
[1:43] <agronholm> does for me
[1:44] <Arfrever> Apparently failure is locale-dependant. It works with C locale.
[1:45] <agronholm> works with my (non-C) locale
[1:46] <Arfrever> agronholm: Swedish?
[1:46] <agronholm> Finnish
[1:48] <Arfrever> So I was testing other locales. Apparently there is another failure with Turkish locale :) .
[1:49] <agronholm> how does it fail for you?
[1:49] <Arfrever> Try LC_ALL="tr_TR.UTF-8" jython2.7 -c 'pass'
[1:51] <Arfrever> It might be necessary to firstly add 'tr_TR.UTF-8 UTF-8' line to /etc/locale.gen and run locale-gen
[1:52] <agronholm> I'm too tired right now...maybe I'll try later
[1:53] <Arfrever> agronholm: What locales do you have installed?
[1:54] <agronholm> fi, en
[1:55] <Arfrever> Does Jython trunk fail to build now?
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[2:11] <Arfrever> I filed http://bugs.jython.org/issue2260 and http://bugs.jython.org/issue2261
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[4:25] <jimbaker> Arfrever, i will take a look, thanks!
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[15:13] <jimbaker> Arfrever, i have installed some of the languages and corresponding locales on my ubuntu 14.10 desktop, including turkish (which is perhaps not surprisingly, is very easy)
[15:14] <jimbaker> i can reproduce your bug and i will take a look at resolving it
[15:14] <jimbaker> fwierzbicki, another blocker before we do another round of the beta 4
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[19:19] <jimbaker> Arfrever, so i found out the issue with http://bugs.jython.org/issue2260, apparently the turkish locale uses U+0131 for "i" and this is causing problems in loading the posix module
[19:21] <jimbaker> not certain why this doesn't impact other builtin modules also with an embedded letter i, such as zipimport...
[19:21] <jimbaker> so posix is loaded as pos\u0131x
[19:21] <jimbaker> the rest are fine
[19:23] <jimbaker> ahh, i see the posix module name is computed, the rest are not. i'll dig in more
[19:24] <jimbaker> http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/lang/String.html#toLowerCase()
[19:26] <jimbaker> looks like we need to do toLowerCase(Locale.ENGLISH) in org.python.modules.posix.OS, otherwise "i" gets converted to u+0131
[19:33] <chrisseaton> jimbaker: you should always use an explicit Locale there - otherwise it's a source of bewildering bugs on other people's machines that you can't reproduce locally!
[19:33] <jimbaker> chrisseaton, indeed!
[19:36] <jimbaker> i'm just surprised this hasn't been raised before, that's all - this is in code that hasn't changed since 2.5, which is in wide use. but in this particular case, it only impacts turkish
[19:36] <chrisseaton> we recently started using find bugs and it was one of the things it pointed out
[19:37] <jimbaker> chrisseaton, ahh, good idea. i think we used it before. we should revisit
[19:37] <jimbaker> a good thing to integrate into our ant build
[19:38] <jimbaker> there's also some good tooling now for memory leak detection, especially around classloaders
[19:38] <jimbaker> it was mentioned in a bug report we had, but i don't recall the name
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[20:10] <wstamp_> running Pylint on Jython 2.7b3 standalone produces too many `Unable to import <module>` errors even though these modules can be imported in the Jython standalone shell
[20:11] <wstamp_> Jython 2.7b3, Java 1.8.0_25, Pylint 1.4.1
[20:14] <wstamp_> Jython is the standalone version running on Windows 7, and the installed Pylint is in a directory Lib/site-packages which is in the same directory as the jython-standalone.jar file
[20:15] <wstamp_> Python 2.7.8 doesn't exhibit this behavior
[20:15] <wstamp_> Python is 2.7.8 from Anaconda 2.1.0 distribution
[20:22] <jimbaker> wstamp_, how are you invoking? i really haven't looked at pylint for a while, but it would be certainly nice to support
[20:23] <Arfrever> jimbaker: Apparently there is also http://bugs.jython.org/issue1874
[20:24] <jimbaker> Arfrever, ahh, thanks for catching that. with a patch!
[20:25] <wstamp_> jimbaker: running this command:
[20:25] <jimbaker> there really is too much stuff here. i think we made some progress on the open bug count in the last few betas, but still there are 275 open bugs
[20:25] <wstamp_> java -jar jython-standalone-2.7-b3.jar -Dpython.path=%PYTHONPATH% -m pylint <pylint-dir>
[20:26] <wstamp_> where PYTHONPATH contains the topmost directory (where the jar and Lib dir are located), Lib, and Lib/site-packages
[20:27] <jimbaker> wstamp_, i see. does it work if you tried using the regular jython install?
[20:28] <wstamp_> I'll give it a try
[20:29] <Arfrever> jimbaker: So maybe my bug should be closed as duplicate.
[20:29] <jimbaker> Arfrever, yeah
[20:35] <wstamp_> jimbaker: Jython installed works properly
[20:36] <wstamp_> as in, Pylint doesn't display error messages saying that the modules cannot be imported (F0401 in Pylint)
[20:36] <jimbaker> wstamp_, no surprises there then. standalone has issues that keep coming up
[20:43] <jimbaker> wstamp_, please file a bug, but i don't know if we can readily fix. there's a related bug here: http://bugs.jython.org/issue2143
[20:43] <jimbaker> that's probably the right approach for most users of standalone support
[20:50] <wstamp_> jimbaker: okay, will do
[20:50] <wstamp_> jimbaker: specifically for pylint compatibility or a more general bug than that?
[21:20] <jimbaker> wstamp_, we can always widen the bug
[21:20] <jimbaker> so just report the pylint issue for now
[21:20] <wstamp_> okay
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[21:32] <Arfrever> jimbaker: Does Jython trunk build for you?
[21:38] <Arfrever> jimbaker: http://dpaste.com/3KTYYWZ
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[22:11] <jimbaker> Arfrever, are you building on java 8? this occasionally just randomly fails
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[22:11] <jimbaker> but we have java 7 to build on, so we are not pushing this issue
[22:12] <jimbaker> however the java 8 problem seems to be confined to antlr
[22:12] <Arfrever> jimbaker: 1.7.0_71
[22:12] <jimbaker> in any event, on java 7, on my targets - windows 8.1, ubuntu 14.10, os x 10.10.1, i build jython pretty much every day from scratch, and i haven't seen this problem
[22:13] <jimbaker> (scratch = ant clean && ant regrtest)
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[22:31] <agronholm> Arfrever: have you checked that the method it complains about actually exists there?
[22:31] <agronholm> which version of ant are you using?
[22:33] <Arfrever> 1.9.2
[22:33] <agronholm> 1.9.4 here, but shouldn't matter
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[23:39] <jimbaker> i'm also running ant 1.9.4. 1.9.2 should be recent enough
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[23:45] <agronholm> Arfrever: I can also confirm that jython's tip version builds fine here
[23:46] <agronholm> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_72-b14)
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