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[11:44] <peke> from operator import itemgetter
[11:50] <peke> ooops....
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[16:26] <Arfrever> jimbaker: Could you reopen bug #1945?
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[16:42] <agronholm> you can reproduce it with the latest dev version?
[16:51] <jimbaker> Arfrever, ok, but we will need something we can reproduce
[16:52] <Arfrever> agronholm: I use a snapshot from 4 days ago.
[16:52] <Arfrever> jimbaker: What operating system do you use?
[16:53] <jimbaker> Arfrever, ahh, looks like i only was testing this on os x. on ubuntu 13.10 (soon to be upgraded), i see the illegal seek
[16:53] <Arfrever> jimbaker: Maybe it is specific to Linux or glibc systems...
[16:55] <jimbaker> Arfrever, yeah... always a challenge for java when this happens
[16:55] <Arfrever> By the way, has anybody noticed that, when running test suite of Jython, test_logging hangs in majority of times?
[16:56] <jimbaker> Arfrever, i have seen it happen, but not the majority of times. only occurs on my ubuntu system fwiw
[16:56] <jimbaker> it's almost certainly due to the socket changes
[16:57] <fwierzbicki> I get the hangs on test_logger too (on OSX v 10.8.5)
[16:57] <jimbaker> don't worry, i will revisit. just didn't want to do it until a suitable amount of time passed since working on socket-reboot however - a little burned out from that :)
[16:57] <jimbaker> fwierzbicki, hmmm
[16:57] <fwierzbicki> ha I bet
[16:58] <jimbaker> i develop on os x 10.9, socket is just the sort of fiddly thing that would depend on that however
[16:59] <jimbaker> i'm pretty sure if i can fix test_ftplib, socket will be rock solid...
[17:00] <jimbaker> in terms of doing crazy things around socket lifecycles, which seem to be the main issue
[17:05] <jimbaker> anyway, as i'm sure most of us here noticed who are on jython-bugs, i did try to complete the bug triage work for beta 4. that was a bit much...
[17:06] <jimbaker> there are a few old bugs (say > 12 months) which we need to look at. i did ignore anything zxJDBC related because i'm not sure what our story should be on that, given that jyjdbc really seems to be the way to go and much more straightforward to support
[17:07] <jimbaker> fwierzbicki, ^^^
[17:09] <jimbaker> we are not going to remove zxJDBC in 2.7, but i can certain seeing us deprecating it now, then removing it in 3.x
[17:12] <agronholm> so is anything going to replace it?
[17:13] <fwierzbicki> jimbaker: I did see that - that was a lot of triage, thank for doing all of that!
[17:13] <agronholm> ah
[17:13] <agronholm> didn't see the comment about jyjdbc
[17:23] <jimbaker> anyway, it's the sort of provocative statement i occasionally like to raise on the jython mailing lists :)
[17:23] <jimbaker> just trying it out here first
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