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[4:52] <skyl> have people successfully gotten virtualenv/pip working with 2.7b2 jython?
[4:53] <skyl> are there versions that are known to work/not work
[4:53] <skyl> ?
[5:44] <skyl> this: https://github.com/jimbaker/pip/commit/53b5e2525edf9f27e40bbc11fd7a1377e83f94cc
[5:44] <skyl> cool.
[5:47] <skyl> although, I was going to try `pip install jip` just for fun and I see:
[5:47] <skyl> Sorry: UnicodeDecodeError: ('unicodeescape', "u'z\\ud834yx'", 3, 10, 'illegal Unicode character')
[5:48] <skyl> so, I'm afraid this might need to get fixed in Jython?
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[9:03] <agronholm> skyl: jimbaker says it's a bug in the html5lib
[9:06] <agronholm> skyl: beta 3 is supposed to come out today though
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[16:26] <jimbaker> agronholm, or tomorrow
[16:26] <jimbaker> we need to backout the change that we made for upgrading JNR first
[16:26] <jimbaker> Arfrever, we will have to look at that for beta 4 instead
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[18:08] <skyl> I'm looking to run IPython; I'm wondering if anyone has tried this. My first hurdle is IPython.external.pexpect not being able to `import resource`
[18:10] <pjenvey> skyl - http://bugs.jython.org/issue1133
[18:12] <skyl> interesting, I'm trying to run IPython 2.0.0 from pypi
[18:13] <skyl> import readline is working in my 2.7b2 jython tho
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[18:30] <skyl> the use of resource in pexpect is trivial and can be replaced with a magic number, perhaps (only one use ?). But, termios looks like a much harder dependency to work around
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[18:38] <skyl> looking at how pypy navigates the termios waters ? looks like a small amount of pure python, somehow ...
[19:09] <pjenvey> i thought the older patch basically avoided using termios at all, but that may not be applicable to the current ipython code base
[19:09] <pjenvey> i have no idea
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[19:31] <skyl> termios.__file__ -> '/Users/alex_gaynor/projects/pypy/pypy/module/termios' .. well, that wasn't the information I had in mind ...
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[19:56] <pjenvey> skyl - that's a known pypy bug, it shouldn't have a __file__ because it's builtin
[19:57] <pjenvey> its impl lives inside pypy/pypy/module/termios though, but that's rpython
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[20:09] <pjenvey> I'd try starting with seeing if you can get jython working without termios to start
[20:40] <skyl> jython is working ok. But, ipython was just one of the first things I wanted to see if I could get working.
[20:41] <skyl> CPython builtins have a __file__
[21:18] <pjenvey> I meant ipython+jython without termios, if it's possible
[21:19] <pjenvey> I think they'll have a __file__ if they are an optional module, pointing to their .so, otherwise they don't. e.g. the gc module has no __file__
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