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[2:14] <jimbaker> whg, correct, the jvm doesn't care if it's in a .class file or loaded from the network - it all goes through a ClassLoader and will get jitted regardless of source
[2:14] <whg> Glad to see that being scarred by horrible code serves a purpose, sometimes :-)
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[12:13] <jamespjh> Hi, this may be a known problem: using Jython2.7b1 with JDK 1.8 on OSX Mavericks, easy_install gives "couldn't find index page for 'X'" for all X
[12:27] <jamespjh> I'm using a download of setuptools 3.3
[12:28] <jamespjh> Note that with Jython2.5.4rc1 setuptools 3.3 obviously doesn't work as it uses py 2.7 stuff, but the telecommunity download link for ez_setup works with that version, and then easy_install works as normal.
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[14:28] <agronholm> jamespjh: yep, known problem, upcoming changes to jython 2.7 will fix that
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[14:52] <jamespjh> Cool, thanks.
[14:53] <jamespjh> Will it be in 2.7b2?
[15:45] <smaudet> btw, is the whole 'can't access protected' members in Java ever going to get fixed?
[15:45] <smaudet> In a inheritance-working way, so Private is still inaccessible.
[15:46] <smaudet> Without passing that special parameter.
[15:59] <agronholm> jamespjh: yes
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[16:12] <jamespjh> Ace, thanks.
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[17:02] <jimbaker> agronholm, jamespjh, the consensus that recently developed on the jython-dev mailing list is that we will be doing an immediate beta 2
[17:02] <jimbaker> so the ssl fixes will wait until beta 3
[17:03] <jimbaker> probably a better way to state this: beta 3 will come out when those ssl fixes are in place. soon, very soon - i almost have socket-reboot completely passing tests. just need to fix socket.dup
[17:29] <jamespjh> Ok cool. Looking forward to it. Thanks.
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[19:03] <smaudet> jimbaker: sorry I've not been able to help out yet. Would be really nice to get a python -> Java tool, I've got notes written up on how to do the conversion, but its not bad by hand, and I realize how much class separation pain it has saved me, which is kinda awesome. But, its nice to have some Java classes in the end, even unclamped. :)
[19:03] <smaudet> Still best to used clamped for adding new functionality on the fly
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[19:04] <smaudet> jimbaker: did you get your tests passing?
[19:04] <jimbaker> smaudet, not all of them yet
[19:04] <smaudet> Ok.
[19:05] <jimbaker> for jython-socket-reboot, i still have tests around socket.dup and corresponding semantics in especially socket.makefile
[19:05] <smaudet> I'm probably not going to be around for the next two days, but thanks for everything again. I'll def be back when I've time, but work is likely going to get crazy for a bit here.
[19:07] <jimbaker> smaudet, no worries, it's been great talking w/ you about clamp and other issues
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