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[15:18] <jimbaker> daenney, i should look into pyjnius. i assume that should be pronounced py-genius :)
[15:18] <jimbaker> back from a nice long weekend??? :)
[15:19] <daenney> Long weekends are excellent from time to time
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[21:03] <xarac> hello, is the development of jython active?
[21:05] <agronholm> xarac: yeah but going slowly due to lack of manpower
[21:22] <jimbaker> xarac, i'm working on it quite a bit, in part to support a project i'm working on at rackspace
[21:23] <jimbaker> the last bit before we can deliver a second beta is get pip working, which requires work on ssl support, specifically nonblocking ssl sockets
[21:29] <xarac> thank you, i guess i will start checking the guides at the site then
[21:29] <xarac> Im interested in make this a state of the art project, since i really love both languages, java and python
[21:30] <xarac> talk to you later, and thanks for the info
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[21:32] <sinistersnare> did he mean that he wants to be a jython developer? cool! Im not smart enough for language design :p
[21:33] <agronholm> it's suspicious that he said he loved java too
[21:33] <agronholm> who in their right mind would say that? :)
[21:34] <sinistersnare> lol, i like java, its simple, and fast enough for most needs.
[21:34] <agronholm> simple it is NOT
[21:34] <sinistersnare> well, compared to some C code maybe
[21:34] <sinistersnare> but whoops i have to go, as soon as the conversation starts :p
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[22:23] <topi`> "simple compared to C code"?
[22:23] <topi`> hell yeah :)
[22:24] <topi`> jimbaker: do you have any "war plan" on tackling the nonblocking ssl? How should the python side of things look like? I guess just the ordinary sockets.py api.
[22:24] <topi`> and then the implementation would be based on java nonblocking sockets
[22:59] <sinsnare|away> yep, cant wait for beta2, maybe will stir up some good publicity :p
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[23:04] <jimbaker> topi`, my war plan is very simple. first, i will understand SSLEngine. then build an appropriate state machine that supports appropriate nonblocking and blocking socket semantics in python sockets
[23:05] <jimbaker> since i have never worked with SSLEngine, it's hard to go into greater detail. however, i'm quite confident that i can make this work, with sufficient sweat, possibly tears, likely not blood ;)
[23:06] <jimbaker> it's not too complicated, because SSLEngine fundamentally supports a simple idea of wrap/unwrap
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[23:19] <jimbaker> topi`, others here, i'm sure that i will benefit from any feedback on this state machine. of course i'm perfectly fine if anyone wants to actually implement this sort of stuff now and i just need to review, that's fantastic
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