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[0:01] <pjenvey> http://bugs.jython.org/issue1057 =\
[0:01] <pjenvey> that could be the problem
[0:03] <jimbaker> pjenvey, in this case, it looks like check_output eagerly calls poll, so i don't see this particular issue coming up
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[0:20] <fwierzbicki> jimbaker: topi`: I think jython-django is in a bit of stasis as Josh is on to other things lately. It would be a good project to revive especially as we get close to a 2.7 release
[0:21] <jimbaker> fwierzbicki, thanks for the tip. so basically we can just help out josh on this and add to the maintainers
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[0:22] <jimbaker> in general, we want at least someone who is actively using django on jython as a maintainer. such as topi` :)
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[8:39] <topi`> jimbaker: I was able to isolate my File descriptor leak into the method that uses subprocess
[8:39] <topi`> OSError: Cannot run program "/bin/ping" (in directory "/home/topi/servlet/myworker"): java.io.IOException: error=24, Too many open files
[8:39] <topi`> (I just opened jython interactive, and appended the result of that func to an empty list in a loop for 100 times) ... with ulimit -n set to 64 of course
[8:40] <topi`> the really odd thing is, if I just re-run that for loop, it seems those descriptors have been released! since the loop is once again able to run up until cycle #38
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[11:50] <jimbaker> topi`, sounds like you have a simple test case. can you submit a bug out of this, with the failing test? re descriptors being released, it sounds like if you do import gc; gc.collect() in your loop, it might just work
[11:50] <jimbaker> but that's not acceptable :)
[11:54] <jimbaker> topi`, you will see in the test codebase frequent use of gc.collect() so we can actually have deterministic finalization occur at a given point, similiar to cpython's a variable going out of scope and corresponding refcounting to 0
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[20:30] <topi`> jimbaker: so, Jython does not employ any kind of refcounting mechanism?
[20:31] <topi`> just waits for JVM to take GC action
[20:31] <topi`> I kinda like the memory management in CPython, it's very deterministic and very reliable
[20:40] <agronholm> topi`: and very inefficient
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[20:40] <agronholm> jython uses the jvm's gc mechanism
[20:41] <agronholm> I'm not sure if any other implementation besides CPython uses refcounting
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[21:32] <pjenvey> topi` - and also a large part of why cpython has a GIL
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[21:57] <jimbaker> topi`, the one part of the jython codebase that does some refcounting is the socket module, however, it would be better done w/ weakrefs
[21:58] <jimbaker> this may happen as the result of the reworking i'm doing on ssl
[22:28] <vext01> jimbaker: did anything happen with the __builtins__ bug in pdb?
[22:29] <jimbaker> vext01, i haven't looked at it yet
[22:29] <jimbaker> i have spent way too much time on setuptools unfortunately :(
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[22:42] <vext01> jimbaker: no worries
[22:54] <jimbaker> vext01, were you able to resolve getting bugs in bugs.jython.org? i know we discussed this, but for stuff like this, we don't want to lose the report
[22:54] <jimbaker> right now i'm personally focused on some big improvements in jython, but we also need to address smaller bugs where feasible
[22:54] <vext01> i havent tried again since the second time
[22:55] <jimbaker> vext01, ok. please try one more time. if not??? if you can send me the paste again, i will log for you
[22:55] <jimbaker> since i probably will fix. and bug you for a good test case while i am at it
[23:14] <vext01> jython -m pdb anyfile.py
[23:14] <vext01> zzz
[23:15] <jimbaker> so basically, it doesn't work
[23:15] <vext01> :p
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