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[8:02] <dani-lap> Hi guys, I need help with setting system properties in jython
[8:03] <dani-lap> if I use the below in my jython script
[8:03] <dani-lap> System.setProperty("config.path", "some/path/")
[8:03] <dani-lap> the java class that I call can't read the actual property i just set
[8:03] <dani-lap> however, if I do
[8:04] <dani-lap> java -Dconfig.path=some/path and call the jython script it works fine
[8:04] <dani-lap> any hint please?
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[19:32] <Taggnostr> hello fwierzbicki
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[19:32] <Taggnostr> are you working with the jython tracker?
[19:34] <fwierzbicki> Taggnostr, I am trying :)
[19:34] <fwierzbicki> I'm going to attempt to upgrade Jython's tracker to be more like CPython's
[19:34] <Taggnostr> maybe I can help :)
[19:34] <fwierzbicki> But first I need to get it running locally
[19:35] <Taggnostr> the jython instructions are not updated, but the ones for b.p.o should be ok
[19:36] <fwierzbicki> That would be great - even though I signed up to do it when our last maintainer retired I haven't done more than try to make sure we aren't getting spammed
[19:36] <fwierzbicki> b.p.o?
[19:36] <Taggnostr> so I suggest you to follow the b.p.o ones when you have problems with the jython instructions, and possibly update them accordingly
[19:36] <Taggnostr> bugs.python.org
[19:36] <Taggnostr> the "python-dev" instance
[19:38] <fwierzbicki> ah ok - so what I am doing currently is just setting up a bpo version and then seeing what that looks like, and then seeing how different they are.
[19:39] <Taggnostr> the b.p.o one has lot of extra stuff
[19:39] <fwierzbicki> BTW bpo instructions are these right: http://wiki.python.org/moin/TrackerDevelopment
[19:39] <Taggnostr> yes
[19:39] <fwierzbicki> Taggnostr, well I think we want all of that :)
[19:39] <fwierzbicki> Reitveld, openid, etc
[19:39] <fwierzbicki> So I hope I can figure out how to integrate all of that
[19:39] <Taggnostr> ok
[19:40] <Taggnostr> MvL added those, so he might be more helpful than me for that
[19:40] <fwierzbicki> I also need to simplify our versions to be more like bpo - so pare it down to just "Jython 2.5" and not rc1 b1 etc
[19:40] <Taggnostr> but otherwise I'm the main maintainer of the b.p.o tracker
[19:41] <fwierzbicki> Taggnostr, first I just need to get Jython's limping along - I'm hoping I can just pull over most of the stuff in python-dev
[19:41] <fwierzbicki> Taggnostr, oh excellent! Then I"m sure you can help :)
[19:41] <fwierzbicki> Is there an irc channel where you hang out or should I mainly ask questions on the tracker list?
[19:42] <Taggnostr> so IIUC your plan is 1) get the jython instance to run locally; 2) update it with stuff from b.p.o; 3) push it on the live jython repo; right?
[19:42] <fwierzbicki> yes
[19:42] <fwierzbicki> the live part I suspect will take some care
[19:42] <Taggnostr> here or #python-dev is ok, or query too
[19:42] <fwierzbicki> Does it live on dinsdale?
[19:43] <fwierzbicki> I ask in case I need permissions somewhere else - might as well get that sorted out in advance
[19:44] <fwierzbicki> Taggnostr, ^^^
[19:44] <fwierzbicki> Taggnostr, are there Jython instructions other than the small blurb at the bottom of http://wiki.python.org/moin/TrackerDevelopment ?
[19:45] <Taggnostr> if you are a cpython committer IIRC you should be able to push changes on the jython repo too, but you'll need someone else to apply them live (I can do that)
[19:46] <Taggnostr> yep, I think that's all the documentation available
[19:48] <Taggnostr> fwierzbicki, following the instructions for b.p.o should be enough
[19:48] <fwierzbicki> cool
[19:48] <Taggnostr> there are things that you can skip
[19:48] <fwierzbicki> I am a cpython committer so that should be fine
[19:49] <fwierzbicki> Taggnostr, sure - I'm holding off on the optional stuff like Rietveld at first
[19:50] <Taggnostr> FWIW I should also update roundup on the server, but last time I tried I was getting some error and I haven't tried again
[19:50] <Taggnostr> so if you find out something new that is not explained on that page feel free to add it
[19:51] <fwierzbicki> Taggnostr, ok - hopefully once I've done this the hard way (after a year or two of neglect) I can stay in sync and not let this get so bad again.
[19:52] <Taggnostr> since you are porting things from b.p.o to jython, it might also make sense contribute some of them upstream to Roundup
[19:54] <fwierzbicki> that sounds reasonable - I'll try to look out for things that make sense there.
[19:56] <Taggnostr> openid and rietveld would be two features that should be backported
[19:59] <Taggnostr> regarding the spambayes_integration I think I fixed it for python-dev but not for jython
[20:00] <Taggnostr> fwierzbicki: http://hg.python.org/tracker/python-dev/rev/af0e43d02668
[20:00] <fwierzbicki> Taggnostr, oh great, that will help!
[20:01] <Taggnostr> IIUC spambayes is disabled, but it can't be removed since we are still using some of its features
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[21:04] <Taggnostr> fwierzbicki, is it working?
[21:05] <fwierzbicki> Taggnostr, the spambayes fix got it running - though the rendering is a bit ugly :)
[21:05] <Taggnostr> is it the same you have on the official jython tracker?
[21:05] <fwierzbicki> Doesn't seem like it - the left nav seems to hide the "List of issues"
[21:06] <fwierzbicki> but there are no issues - so maybe it's only a bug in that case
[21:06] <fwierzbicki> *just* got it running
[21:07] <fwierzbicki> I think I may merge our L&F closer to python-dev just to make things easier on me
[21:07] <Taggnostr> L&F closer?
[21:07] <fwierzbicki> Look and feel
[21:07] <Taggnostr> ok
[21:07] <fwierzbicki> The Jython tracker has an old Jython website look anyway
[21:08] <Taggnostr> to change that you want to look at the html/ dir of your instance
[21:08] <fwierzbicki> Taggnostr, are you coordinating with the whole website redesign for python.org?
[21:08] <fwierzbicki> Taggnostr, cool - yeah that's where I'm looking
[21:09] <fwierzbicki> Luckily it isn't *that* big of a project :)
[21:09] <Taggnostr> fwierzbicki, no, and I was wondering if they want to redesign b.p.o too
[21:09] <fwierzbicki> Yeah - I bet at least the sidebar would chane
[21:09] <fwierzbicki> s/chane/change/
[21:09] <Taggnostr> I think/hope they will just forget about b.p.o, and then I'll update it once they are done with the main site
[21:10] <fwierzbicki> ha
[21:10] <fwierzbicki> fair enough
[21:11] <Taggnostr> (I should probably subscribe to yet another ML and try to figure out what's going on with the website redesign)
[21:11] <fwierzbicki> Is there even an ML for that?
[21:12] <Taggnostr> not for the redesign specifically, but I think there's one for all the website-related things
[21:16] <fwierzbicki> ah - that might be pydotorg-www
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[23:35] <fwierzbicki> Taggnostr, in the python-dev tracker I get this when I try to create an issue "Error: Unsupported configuration option: IRKER_CHANNELS"
[23:36] <Taggnostr> see the irker section in the wiki
[23:36] <fwierzbicki> oh ok - sorry missed it
[23:36] <Taggnostr> you have to cp configure.ini.template configure.ini and add an entry for irker
[23:37] <Taggnostr> (irker is the replacement of CIA, you can use it to report changes on the bug tracker on #jython)
[23:37] <fwierzbicki> cool, sorry was going from top to bottom - I'll read the whole thing before I bug you again :)
[23:39] <Taggnostr> if you don't want to install irker you should add a 'return' in detectors/irker.py:init
[23:40] <Taggnostr> fwierzbicki, I'm going to sleep now, do you have any other questions before I go?
[23:41] <fwierzbicki> one quick one - is there a way to skip irker - I don't know that I want to spam an irc channel while I poke around
[23:41] <fwierzbicki> or is there a debug mode that won't try to send messages?
[23:42] <fwierzbicki> if it's a long answer go ahead and go to sleep :) -- I'll fiddle through
[23:42] <fwierzbicki> Taggnostr, ^^^
[23:43] <Taggnostr> you can add the 'return' in in detectors/irker.py:init, or just delete the whole file
[23:44] <Taggnostr> that's a quick and dirty workaround that you can use with all the detectors
[23:44] <fwierzbicki> cool, thanks and good night!
[23:44] <Taggnostr> night

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