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[1:16] <varialus> I just discovered javax.script.ScriptEngine from the UserGuide. Very cool! I think I like it better than PythonInterpreter for embedding Jython in Java.
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[9:13] <Epona> hey I tried installing setuptools on the latest jython, but received an alarming error
[9:14] <Epona> (AttributeError:'NoneType' object has no attribute 'startwith'
[9:15] <Epona> this occurs when I run setup.py
[9:15] <Epona> im on the latest ubuntu
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[10:13] <Epona> hey cla
[10:13] <Epona> clajo04_
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[10:22] <clajo04_> Epona: Yes?
[10:22] <Epona> do you think you could help me out with installing distutils on the latest jython?
[10:23] <Epona> im really struggling with this
[10:24] <Epona> I've got two vms up trying to do different django and jython configurations on each
[10:24] <Epona> it's just really painful
[10:25] <clajo04_> Epona: Okay- I'm a windows guy, so I am not sure I can help with this but I will try - what errors are you getting?
[10:25] <Epona> AttributeError:'NoneType' object has no attribute 'startwith'
[10:26] <agronholm> installing distutils?
[10:26] <clajo04_> Epona: I'm not sure I understand what you are asking for help with - distutils is part of the standard library - what version of Jython are you using?
[10:26] <agronholm> distutils is part of the standard library, no need to install it
[10:27] <Epona> 2.5.2 I believe
[10:27] <agronholm> can I ask why you're using django and jython together?
[10:28] <Epona> to make war files of web apps
[10:28] <clajo04_> Epona: And what happens when you execute a "import distutils" at the jython interactive prompt?
[10:28] <Epona> just trying to get a war of an app using mongodb to be exact
[10:28] <Epona> one moment
[10:29] <Epona> ok so that works o.o
[10:29] <Epona> now ill try using pip again
[10:29] <agronholm> pip requires distribute
[10:30] <Epona> no module names setuptools
[10:30] <agronholm> so install distribute
[10:30] <Epona> yea I've got that here too
[10:30] <Epona> ill give it a go again
[10:30] <agronholm> http://python-distribute.org/
[10:30] <agronholm> simple script to run (distribute_setup.py)
[10:31] <Epona> AttributeError:'NoneType' object has no attribute 'startwith'
[10:31] <Epona> ok the error was for distribute
[10:32] <agronholm> did you get a traceback for that error btw
[10:32] <Epona> I got them confused since its a fork
[10:32] <agronholm> distribute is a fork of setuptools, yes
[10:32] <Epona> yes but it's hard to copy paste between OS so hopefully a picture suffices?
[10:32] <agronholm> if it's readable
[10:34] <Epona> http://i.imgur.com/FqKic.png
[10:36] <agronholm> I'm curious -- why is distribute being executed from your Downloads directory?
[10:36] <agronholm> didn't you install it?
[10:36] <Epona> I downloaded it, so I could install it with jython
[10:37] <agronholm> but did you actually install it?
[10:37] <Epona> you mean for python?
[10:37] <agronholm> just running "jython distribute_setup.py" would install it
[10:39] <Epona> I didnt even notice that file
[10:39] <Epona> new error though
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[10:41] <Epona> http://i.imgur.com/goCnH.png
[10:42] <agronholm> the way you start jython looks wrong
[10:42] <agronholm> there is a "jython" executable for starting jython
[10:42] <Epona> yea, jython.jar
[10:42] <Epona> that's how the jython installation instructions say to run your files
[10:42] <agronholm> no
[10:42] <agronholm> where?
[10:43] <Epona> http://wiki.python.org/jython/InstallationInstructions#id4
[10:43] <agronholm> there is bin/jython
[10:43] <agronholm> that you should be running
[10:43] <Epona> bin? which bin
[10:44] <agronholm> in the jython installation directory
[10:46] <agronholm> or did you perhaps use the standalone jar install?
[10:46] <Epona> I see Jython inside the bin
[10:46] <Epona> are you saying these errors might be caused by this?
[10:47] <agronholm> "Executing a script in the install directory, jython on Unix-like systems or jython.bat on Windows, will start up the Jython console, which can be used to dynamically explore Jython and the Java runtime, or to run Jython scripts."
[10:47] <agronholm> this is what the instructions tell you
[10:47] <agronholm> possibly
[10:49] <Epona> hm
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[10:55] <Epona> sorry about that clajo04_
[10:55] <Epona> disconnected at a pretty bad time
[10:55] <Epona> but yes, thankyou for that
[10:55] <Epona> er
[10:55] <Epona> agronholm,
[10:55] <Epona> I meant :D
[10:55] <Epona> but thanks for the conversaion anyway clajo04_
[10:55] <clajo04_> Epona: not a problem - did that resolve your problem
[10:57] <Epona> yes
[10:57] <Epona> pip just finished installing
[10:57] <clajo04_> Epona: good - glad to help anytime ;) (Thanks for stepping in agronholm).
[10:58] <Epona> do any of you play league of legends?
[11:00] <clajo04_> Epona: not me - but you could probably tell that from my inventive and terror inducing nick. ;)
[11:00] <Epona> well there's just this picture I found that is pretty awesome
[11:01] <Epona> I feel the urge to share it
[11:01] <Epona> http://rule34-data-000.paheal.net/_images/4188469be9cfe3cae40280b95a0fca30/897142%20-%20Ahri%20FBende%20Kayle%20akali%20league_of_legends%20lux%20miss_fortune%20nidalee%20riven%20sona%20zyra.jpg
[11:01] <Epona> but I really must be heading to bed now
[11:01] <Epona> I have so much work ahead of me
[11:01] <Epona> goodnight
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[16:48] <DRayX> Quick question, how would I from Java code do the equivalent of PyImport_ImportModule in the C API? I suppose I could get the __import__ function from the builtins of my PySystemState object, but I wondered if there was a more direct approach.
[16:51] <DRayX> The ImportFrom method in the imp module looks sort of like what I am looking for, but I am unsure of how to get the PyFrame object.
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[18:28] <CRUNK> hey guys, im completely new to jython but it looks awesome. i was wondering: how hard would it be to "port" an existing python program (medium sized, 10+ modules) for use with jython inside of a java app?
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[18:37] <DRayX> What is the equivalent of PyImport_ImportModule (from the c api) in Jython.
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[18:37] <DRayX> ?
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[18:38] <agronholm> DRayX: you want to import a python module in java code?
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[18:43] <diminoten> is 2.5.3b1 in maven?
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[18:55] <DRayX> Agronholm: Yep, that is the goal. I suppose I could grab the __import__ function from the PySystemState builtins, but I was wondering if there was a more eligent way. The imp module looked close as well, but I couldn't quite figure that out.
[19:03] <agronholm> dray, just import org.python.core.imp
[19:03] <agronholm> and imp.load("your.module")
[19:08] <diminoten> I'm experiencing some different performance between Cpython and Jython's unittest module
[19:08] <diminoten> in 2.7a2
[19:08] <diminoten> not sure exactly what's causing it
[19:08] <diminoten> as the unittest Libs are identical
[19:09] <agronholm> different performance? jython ought to be slower
[19:09] <diminoten> not speed related
[19:10] <diminoten> unittest.TestLoader().discover behaves slightly differently
[19:15] <DRayX> agronholm: Oh I didn't see the load function. Does that work with a module in a package or not?
[19:15] <agronholm> both
[19:16] <DRayX> What I mean is if I do "your.module" is the returned object a reference to your with module in it, or module itself
[19:16] <agronholm> it's the module
[19:16] <DRayX> What I mean is if I do "foo.bar" is the returned object a reference to foo with bar in it, or bar itself (switched to use better metasyntactic variables)
[19:17] <DRayX> Perfect, thanks again agronholm
[19:17] <DRayX> One more question, if I want to call PyInterpreter.exec, how do I specify single input vs exec input?
[19:17] <agronholm> single input?
[19:18] <DRayX> Where isntead or returning the object it is printed to the screen
[19:19] <DRayX> as in the mode argument to compile and exec
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[21:05] <DRayX> If I do imp.load("foo") is that going to use the import hooks?
[21:23] <agronholm> it should
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[22:39] <DRayx> Does Jython use the same opcodes as CPython?
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[23:10] <agronholm> jython uses jvm bytecode
[23:10] <agronholm> I don't know the details
[23:10] <agronholm> there is a vm for interpreting cpython opcodes but it's experimental
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