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[2:34] <pjenvey> so Armin said in a lightning talk @ EuroPycon that he's hoping he'll be back the next year with the GIL removed from pypy. Says he's apparently thinking about some STM solutions
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[14:06] <wainersm> is there any contribution guidelines for Jython?
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[14:16] <agronholm> wainersm: preferably attach your patch to the associated bug report
[14:16] <agronholm> if nothing happens, come here and give us the heads up
[14:16] <agronholm> as a last resort, post to the ML about it
[14:19] <wainersm> agronholm, do contributor needs to assign to the PSF contributor agreement?
[14:19] <agronholm> I believe so, yeah
[14:19] <agronholm> I have signed it
[14:26] <wainersm> agronholm, great. You are the project maintainer?
[14:27] <agronholm> eh, no
[14:27] <agronholm> just a random contributor
[14:27] <agronholm> I'd be a tad more certain if I was the maintainer
[14:27] <wainersm> :)
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[15:18] <luizribeiro> anyone familiar with the inner workings of Jython's parser and compiler here?
[15:19] <luizribeiro> I have reported a bug in Jython 2.5 last saturday and I've been trying to fix it since then, with no results
[15:20] <agronholm> did you post on the ML?
[15:20] <luizribeiro> yes
[15:21] <agronholm> I wish I could help
[15:21] <agronholm> but I have no clue where to look
[15:21] <luizribeiro> http://bugs.jython.org/issue1764
[15:22] <agronholm> I'm not seeing any ML posts
[15:22] <agronholm> when did you post there?
[15:22] <luizribeiro> oh
[15:22] <luizribeiro> sorry
[15:22] <luizribeiro> I didn't post on the ML
[15:22] <luizribeiro> just on the bug tracker
[15:23] <agronholm> you should do that
[15:23] <luizribeiro> hmmm, ok
[15:23] <luizribeiro> jython-dev?
[15:23] <agronholm> or jython-users
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[15:24] <luizribeiro> ok! I'll post something about it in the next hour
[15:25] <luizribeiro> I'm a GSoC student this year, and my project is affected by this bug
[15:25] <agronholm> is there no workaround?
[15:25] <luizribeiro> well, I'm working on a scripting plugin for Gephi
[15:26] <luizribeiro> so people expect to have this working on the scripting console I'm working on
[15:26] <luizribeiro> the problem is that I have many set objects that contain nodes from the graph
[15:27] <luizribeiro> and people would like to do stuff like: (v1.neighbors & v2.neighbors).color = red
[15:27] <luizribeiro> (for setting the color of the nodes that are neighbor from v1 and v2 to red)
[15:27] <luizribeiro> but that's not possible because of that bug
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[17:12] <jimbaker> luizribeiro, i don't understand the request here... this is not a valid operation in cpython as you mention in the bug report
[17:13] <jimbaker> what's happening here is that the parser doesn't recognize this construct
[17:14] <jimbaker> doing on this a tuple seems particularly troublesome - usually one would expect tuples to be immutable
[17:15] <agronholm> jimbaker: tuples are not involved here
[17:15] <agronholm> besides, bad code shouldn't crash the jvm
[17:15] <agronholm> which is what happens now
[17:16] <jimbaker> agronholm, you're right, it's on a list
[17:18] <jimbaker> i'm at the ubuntu platform rally in dublin and we're about to go to dinner... take care
[17:30] <luizribeiro> jimbaker: actually, if you override the __setattr__ method and make it a valid operation, jython will still crash (that's the main problem, maybe I've used a poor example on the bug report)
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[17:31] <agronholm> but it doesn't crash if you use list literals there
[17:32] <agronholm> in fact you can just do (a + 1).foo = 42 and it will still crash
[17:32] <agronholm> so lists are not involved here
[17:32] <luizribeiro> yeap
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