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[0:59] <qwebirc47607> hey anyone here?
[1:12] <qwebirc47607> HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[1:26] <agronholm> ?
[1:27] <agronholm> qwebirc47607: what is it?
[1:27] <qwebirc47607> Hi!
[1:27] <qwebirc47607> Hoping for a quick pointer
[1:27] <qwebirc47607> I've been trying for DAYS to make a border around a picture in Jython with no luck.
[1:27] <agronholm> whoa, slow down
[1:27] <qwebirc47607> Do you have any idea how I would go about doing this? I'll be forever grateful.
[1:27] <agronholm> border around a picture using what graphics or ui library?
[1:28] <qwebirc47607> using a jpg on my desktop
[1:28] <agronholm> that's neither a graphics or ui library
[1:28] <qwebirc47607> right
[1:28] <qwebirc47607> ?
[1:28] <agronholm> what?
[1:29] <qwebirc47607> I don't know what you mean, i suppose.
[1:29] <agronholm> so wait a minute -- does this have anything to do with programming?
[1:29] <qwebirc47607> Yes of course
[1:29] <qwebirc47607> I have a picture on my desktop, and I need to get a border around it
[1:29] <qwebirc47607> using Jython
[1:29] <qwebirc47607> then go picture=makePicture(file) show(picture)
[1:29] <agronholm> why jython specifically
[1:30] <qwebirc47607> unfortunately it's what my professor wants :/
[1:30] <agronholm> aren't you supposed to figure that out yourself? that's a school assignment, right?
[1:30] <qwebirc47607> it's not actually a assignment
[1:30] <agronholm> what then
[1:30] <qwebirc47607> i'm not officially registered for the class haha
[1:30] <qwebirc47607> so i cant go to lab and learn..
[1:31] <agronholm> why are you doing this then
[1:31] <qwebirc47607> i'm just taking this class secretely
[1:31] <qwebirc47607> cuz i wanna learn
[1:32] <agronholm> you need to take a look at the image manipulation routines in the java standard library
[1:32] <agronholm> basically the Image class and its subclasses
[1:32] <agronholm> they can load bitmaps from jpeg images
[1:32] <agronholm> then you can manipulate those images and save them back to a file
[1:32] <agronholm> there, you have your pointers
[1:36] <qwebirc47607> hmmm..
[1:36] <qwebirc47607> ok thank, i appreciate your help
[1:36] <qwebirc47607> DICK
[1:37] <agronholm> wtf?
[1:37] <qwebirc47607> lolz
[1:37] <qwebirc47607> hey guess what?
[1:37] <agronholm> ?
[1:38] <qwebirc47607> you have a teeny tiny wee wee
[1:38] <agronholm> you have a mighty attitude for someone asking for help
[1:38] <qwebirc47607> do the fucking code for me
[1:38] <qwebirc47607> bitch
[1:39] <agronholm> too bad I'm not an op so I can't kickban you
[1:39] <qwebirc47607> i know, then i would cry waaawaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[1:39] <qwebirc47607> but you're not an op
[1:39] <qwebirc47607> you're just a fat dude with a tiny dick
[1:39] <agronholm> you're on my shitlist now so I won't see anything you say to me anymore
[1:39] <qwebirc47607> cool
[1:39] <qwebirc47607> tiny dick man
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[1:56] <jimbaker> well, that was unpleasant
[1:56] <jimbaker> this is a good reason to get admin privileges assigned
[1:57] <jimbaker> agronholm, i will certainly nominate you
[1:57] <agronholm> thanks
[1:57] <agronholm> we got someone just as unpleasant on ##python-friendly the other day
[1:57] <jimbaker> and i will get this assigned to myself (i think i can say that!). if anyone else who is a regular wants it, please ask. i don't want repeats
[2:00] <jimbaker> agronholm, there are always trolls and other people we don't want to see. being a community means we can determine what is appropriate decorum
[2:01] <agronholm> yup
[2:04] <jimbaker> agronholm, i also wanted to say how much i personally thank you for being a very cool member of our community. you write awesome code, you have some good opinions. and you help out a lot too
[2:05] <agronholm> heh np really
[2:06] <jimbaker> i know, but i just wanted to say it :)
[2:06] <agronholm> thanks
[2:07] <agronholm> has the maven upload thing gotten off the ground yet?
[2:07] <jimbaker> agronholm, i have not been involved. i think ohumbel was looking at it
[2:08] * jimbaker is solely focused on making jython fast right now. ok, maintaining itertools too
[2:10] <agronholm> what's the current state of jython 2.6?
[2:11] <jimbaker> agronholm, i think there was some good initial progress, then people got busy. usual stuff
[2:11] <agronholm> yup
[2:11] <jimbaker> on the perf front, shashank and i are getting some very interesting numbers applying invokedynamic/java.lang.invoke
[2:12] <agronholm> nice
[2:12] <agronholm> any specifics?
[2:12] <jimbaker> we just started seeing some early results compared to pypy last year
[2:12] <jimbaker> 20x speedups on some simple loops
[2:12] <agronholm> excellent
[2:12] <jimbaker> comparable
[2:12] <agronholm> I'm pretty excited about pypy 1.5 too
[2:14] <jimbaker> pypy and jython have done some good work together too
[2:14] <jimbaker> maciej and i regularly talk and share idea
[2:14] <agronholm> makes sense
[2:43] <pjenvey> +1 agronholm ftw lame trolls ftl
[2:44] <jimbaker> pjenvey, who has admin privs here on this channel?
[2:45] * jimbaker needs to learn more about what to do
[2:45] <pjenvey> ChanServ says plankton does
[2:45] <agronholm> who's that
[2:46] <jimbaker> who the heck is plankton? ;)
[2:46] <pjenvey> maybe frank does
[2:46] <pjenvey> he's here sometimes, I think he created http://wiki.python.org/jython/IrcChannel
[2:47] <jimbaker> ok, i will look for him, it's not exactly something i expect to see frequent use of. but best to have it just in case
[2:49] <pjenvey> ya I haven't done much 2.6 yet I had been converting the main repo for a while there, i just started looking at doing the last two repos
[2:50] <pjenvey> my jenkins server is kinda of messed up too, so i need to move it elsewhere
[2:50] <jimbaker> pjenvey, do you want me to look into getting some hw from python.org for that?
[2:50] <pjenvey> we should be ready to officially move the main repo to hg pretty soon, i'm mostly waiting for committers to play around with the test repo
[2:51] <pjenvey> jimbaker - that would be nice
[2:51] <jimbaker> pjenvey, i will ask the infra committee about that
[2:52] <jimbaker> btw, congrats on your being voted into the psf!
[2:52] <pjenvey> thanks jim!
[2:53] <agronholm> hm, I hadn't heard
[2:53] <agronholm> congrats
[2:53] <jimbaker> i don't know if there's been an official announcement yet... but the results are in
[2:53] <pjenvey> they finally blogged about it today actually
[2:54] <jimbaker> cool, then i won't be kicked out ;)
[2:54] <jimbaker> http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2011/04/psf-elects-new-members.html
[2:55] <pjenvey> thanks agronholm
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[5:29] <fwierzbicki> pjenvey: congrats!
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