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[0:22] <fwierzbicki> agronholm: thanks!
[0:23] <agronholm> apparently there's a rogue .hgrc somewhere
[0:23] <agronholm> in the history :/
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[1:00] <agronholm> I may have figured out a solution
[1:05] <agronholm> I can exclude the sandbox entirely with --filemap
[1:14] <agronholm> fwierzbicki: success!
[1:14] <agronholm> I can now switch to the default branch
[1:15] <fwierzbicki> ah cool! I'm downloading the tarball
[1:15] <agronholm> wait
[1:15] <agronholm> haven't updated it yet :)
[1:15] <fwierzbicki> ah I'll kill that one :)
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[1:23] <cookieme> hi I'm quite new to Jython and have written a small application that uses an external java api to communicate with a server. What would be the simplest solution to implement JSON in this application, so that an external client application can trigger functions in my Jython app?
[1:24] <agronholm> came for a second opinion, eh?
[1:26] <cookieme> well I don't know how Py4J is going to be easier for me to use then Jython because I'm confused as to how much Java I'm going to have to write in additon to Python. I thought I would see what the Jython community says. A second opinion is always good especially as I'm unclear on my proposed application structure. ;)
[1:28] <agronholm> fwierzbicki: clear, you can download the tarball now
[1:29] <fwierzbicki> cool, thanks!
[1:34] <cookieme> I think I need reconsider the complexity of my project.
[1:34] <agronholm> py4j and jython both have their tradeoffs
[1:35] <agronholm> jython is probably easier, but you'll have to limit yourself to python 2.5 syntax or you might have to bridge jython to cpython
[1:36] <cookieme> I feel that I'm having to jump through lots of hoops to accomplish something that on the surface seems quite simple.
[1:37] <cookieme> maybe I need to hire a professional to do this
[1:38] <agronholm> you're not?
[1:38] <cookieme> no I'm not a professional programmer
[1:38] <agronholm> oh.
[1:39] <agronholm> you're in a small minority here then :)
[1:39] <cookieme> yes I've understood that talking to both you and GothAlice ;)
[1:41] <cookieme> i sort of slipped on a banana peel and got into Python, Jython etc.. I got an idea and trying to realise it
[1:41] <agronholm> what does this application do?
[1:41] <agronholm> or rather, what would it do?
[1:42] <cookieme> since it's just you and I talking here I'll move back to the other room, ok?
[1:42] <agronholm> k
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[4:57] <fwierzbicki> weird
[4:58] <fwierzbicki> oops sorry mistyped here
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[7:32] <jankoprowski> Hi
[7:32] <jankoprowski> How return Java Boleann from PythonInterpreter.eval?
[7:32] <jankoprowski> There is no such method as InBoolean :|
[7:40] <jankoprowski> No I have something like this: http://pylonshq.com/pasties/2ede2432d069ff733043011eb33981df
[7:40] <jankoprowski> Is there any better method to achieve such effect
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[11:43] <agronholm> jankoprowski: does your python code really return any of boolean, integer and string?
[11:43] <agronholm> I mean, you _could_ use __tojava__()
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[17:01] [fwierzbicki] agronholm: thanks for trying out the hg conversion of trunk - the trouble is that we also need the history from branches/ and tags/ -- I have a feeling that doing that conversion over the net would take days and would surely run into that bug
[17:01] [fwierzbicki] agronholm: I really appreciate the try though!
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[17:01] [agronholm] fwierzbicki: uh, aren't those included?
[17:01] [agronholm] hg branches shows quite a number of branches
[17:01] [fwierzbicki] argonholm: maybe I don't know exactly what I'm looking at
[17:01] [fwierzbicki] I don't use hg much
[17:01] [agronholm] tell me what the problem is
[17:01] [fwierzbicki] agronholm: probably the problem is my mistake
[17:01] [fwierzbicki] and there may be no problem
[17:01] [agronholm] http://pastebin.com/j4z9D0W0
[17:02] [agronholm] the tool I used specifically fetches the branches/tags data too, and the process took several hours
[17:02] [fwierzbicki] agronholm: yep those are good -- later tonight I'll see what the process is to put up your repo on sourceforge so people with more hg knowledge can test it out
[17:02] [agronholm] or bitbucket?
[17:02] [fwierzbicki] thanks for the clarification! I wonder if that bug was fixed...
[17:02] [fwierzbicki] bitbucket is a possibility too - I just know sourceforge better - this would be for testing
[17:03] [agronholm] http://pastebin.com/VkpW427E
[17:03] [agronholm] from what I can tell, all the info should be here...
[17:03] [ohumbel] fwierzbicki - if i can wish i'd like to have it on bitbucket
[17:04] [fwierzbicki] ohumbel: the goal (I think) would be to get it on python hg
[17:04] [agronholm] which is where
[17:04] [fwierzbicki] the PSF hosts it - it is only a test hg for now - but over pycon I believe they are going to switch over
[17:04] [ohumbel] fwierzbicki - did not know that :-)
[17:06] [agronholm] well, hg repos can effortlessly be bounced here and there
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[17:06] [agronholm] so it doesn't really matter
[17:06] [fwierzbicki] agronholm: cool
[17:06] [fwierzbicki] I would not intend to stay at sourceforge - I just know their admin tools
[17:07] [agronholm] bitbucket is great because of its pull request functionality
[17:07] [agronholm] does sourceforge have that?
[17:09] [fwierzbicki] I don't know - but my guess is that bitbucket is worlds better
[17:10] [fwierzbicki] I just wanted to throw the repo up for people to kick the tires
[17:10] [fwierzbicki] since obviously I'm not the right person to do the evaluation :)
[17:11] [agronholm] the repo is of course missing the externals
[17:11] [fwierzbicki] agronholm: that's not a problem at all
[17:11] [agronholm] good
[17:12] [fwierzbicki] I wonder if anyone cares about the history in the sandbox... I sort of doubt it
[17:12] [agronholm] me too
[17:12] [agronholm] the reason why I had to nix sandbox was because there was a hg repo in tobias's sandbox
[17:12] [fwierzbicki] in any case we'd leave the svn repo around
[17:12] [fwierzbicki] oh! crazy
[17:13] [agronholm] I could have excluded that directory specifically but I figured that with hg, sandbox becomes irrelevant anyway
[17:13] [ohumbel[ that's exactly the stuff which would be much much easier with hg
[17:13] [ohumbel] and i agree that the sandbox readable on sf will be enough
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[21:44] <juneau001> Updated Django-Jython install docs on the wiki...they were a bit stale...sorry about that
[21:44] <juneau001> http://wiki.python.org/jython/DjangoOnJython
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